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Re: FS

2001-12-17 by mwgfoto

Where would a person get a copy of this ImagePrint 4.0 demo?



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Michael J. Kravit" 
<mkravit@k...> wrote:
> That is pretty much my point....
> 
> Open teh system and let people profile their inks and papers and 
> share the info...this would make the system much more valuable IMO.
> 
> So with that in mind, I have received a demo of the ImagePrint 4.0 
> Software which does exactly that. In fact, the developer will 
> initially profile paper/ink combinations should you request them. 
> 
> Mike
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., flacita33@h... wrote:
> > I agree. I think that most of those who would opt for just the 
> Piezo 
> > software in all likelihood would not be going into the situation 
> > blind. They would understand that the software is optimized to 
work 
> > with the Piezo system as whole. This point could also be made 
clear 
> > in marketing the software. Perhaps the "turnkey solution" is the 
> way 
> > to go, but why not offer a choice? The only reason I see for hard-
> > bundling the software with ink, etc. is to enforce consumption of 
> > propriatory consumables. This may turn out to be a strategy with 
> > diminishing returns.
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., spdolha@c... wrote:
> > > That's like saying that people complain to Adobe about results 
> with 
> > > different colour inks and papers when using Photoshop with ICC 
> > > profiles - not likely.  Customers only complain when a vendor's 
> > > technical support can not give clear solutions to problems or 
> point 
> > > people at the reasons for the problems.
> > > 
> > > My feeling is that the Piezo software could become an industry 
> > > standard by releasing the specification for the ICQ curves - 
just 
> > > like ICC is a standard today.  Perhaps they could license the 
ICQ 
> > > spec to other ink and paper vendors to allow the entire 
industry 
> to 
> > > innovate and in fact expand on the sales of the Piezo 
software.  
> > > This also lets the market determine which inksets and papers 
rise 
> > to 
> > > the top - and if Piezo gives the best results, the market is 
> quite 
> > > capable of determining that.  There are many historical 
examples 
> of 
> > > restricted market share resulting from not opening up to 
> standards.
> > > 
> > > I think opening up the Piezo software would actually increase 
> sales 
> > > and expand the market for Cone.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Steve Dolha
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Steadman Uhlich" 
> > > <steadmanuhlich@k...> wrote:
> > > > IF I were Jon Cone I would not sell "just the software" given 
> all 
> > > the variables out there...it is important to have a system 
> > > (paper/software/ink) that works for most people...and 
Piezography 
> > > System works very well for most people (me included)...if you 
let 
> > > people change too many of the variables (unsupported papers for 
> > > instance...or someone elses cheap ink)  then you would open up 
a 
> > can 
> > > of worms...and potential for customers to complain and 
> > > complain....and point fingers at the "software" (the most 
> expensive 
> > > part of the equation?) as causing the problem.  
> > > > 
> > > > I think his "turnkey" system with a broad range of supported 
> and 
> > > profiled papers (many available from Inkjetmall) is the smart 
way 
> > to 
> > > go...if I were in his shoes running that business that is what 
I 
> > > would do too. 
> > > > 
> > > > Steadman
> > > >   ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > >   From: Julian Thomas 
> > > >   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y... 
> > > >   Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 3:32 AM
> > > >   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] FS
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   Yes - although there are other rips that work. The strength 
> of 
> > > the cone
> > > >   system, for me, lies in the profiles - FS gives identical 
> > prints 
> > > at a
> > > >   fraction of the cost.  Whether I'll buy the complete kit 
> > > though ... maybe
> > > >   Cone will sell just the software?
> > > > 
> > > >   Julian
> > > >   ----- Original Message -----
> > > >   From: <toomagenta@a...>
> > > >   To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y...>
> > > >   Sent: Saturday, December 01, 2001 4:40 AM
> > > >   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] FS
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > >   > In a message dated 11/30/2001 5:14:05 PM Eastern Standard 
> > Time,
> > > >   > julianthomas@t... writes:
> > > >   >
> > > >   > << My next purchases will be a
> > > >   >  better mf scanner and a 7000/7500 with some kind of RIP 
> and 
> > > FS inks. >>
> > > >   > Are you considering the Cone software?
> > > >   > George J Kunze
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