Digital BW, The Print

On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 12:52:14PM -0700, Paul Roark wrote:
> Ben,
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> I'm not sure how the PK curve will work with PKN.  There may not be much
> difference except in the very darkest shadows -- and the dmax will be more.
> 
> Let me know how they look.

They look just fine.  Not much difference between these and prints
made with the Eboni curves, at least with neutral toning.  The
"carbon" curve looks good too, though I haven't compared it with the
equivalent Eboni curve.  I would've expected odd color in the carbon
curve, since the black is cool, but on casual inspection this was not
apparent.

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> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Ben
> > Rosengart
> > Sent: Tuesday, September 06, 2005 11:47 AM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] 1280 UT2 without sepia; plus, some archival
> > questions
> > 
> > On Tue, Sep 06, 2005 at 07:40:27AM -0700, Paul Roark wrote:
> > > Note that I also have curves for a number of glossy papers when Photo
> > Black
> > > is loaded.  See the bottom section of
> > > http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/UT2-curves.html .  The neutral one does
> > not
> > > take advantage of the second LM in the Y position.
> > 
> > Naturally.  And these curves work equally well for PKN as for PK?
> > 
> > > Where you have a second LM in the Y spot, you might also consider
> > getting
> > > the ramp reasonably close with sliders (driver set to Color Controls)
> > and
> > > then using a monotone curve for the final linearization.  This is the
> > > approach I've started to use for the C86 when I'm using it to work up
> > images
> > > for the larger printers.  If you can get the tone you like with the
> > sliders
> > > and the contrast reasonably close, the use of a monotone curve is
> > something
> > > many find well within what they can do.
> > 
> > This sounds like the sort of finicky business that I prefer to leave
> > to others wherever possible.  I don't have a densitometer, so I
> > could never be sure whether I had it right or not.
> > 
> > --
> >  Ben Rosengart                                          ben@...
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 Ben Rosengart                                          ben@...
       "Young people should be seen and not heard, because they're
        good-looking but not too bright.  We're pretty bright now,
        but we're ugly." -- Grace Slick on the '60s youth movement