Digital BW, The Print

Did I really type 'excepted..??@ I need more coffee.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Julian Thomas" <julianthomas@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:21 PM
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] print sales - longevity claims?


> I'm not happy with it either, but what can you say?? There are no
scientific
> dates for Piezo. I normally elaborate saying I use X paper, mounted
> archival, and duration depends on how they are kept, but it really isn't
an
> issue as this system is well excepted blah blah. I'm not in the big league
> for sales, but I've never not made a sale because of piezo.
>
> Julian
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Sam A. McCandless" <samcc@...>
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 4:12 PM
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] print sales - longevity claims?
>
>
> > I'm uneasy with Julian's answer, partly because I don't think we
> > should say anything on our own authority because I don't think we
> > know. I think we should point people to credible independent testers
> > such as RIT and Wilhelm. If we do, won't they find color prints with
> > longer lifespans than BW? My guess is that's only because some ink
> > manufacturers have been investing in the testing longer than others
> > or have been testing color but not quadtones. I think it would take a
> > fairly long and elaborate answer to include such interpretive notes,
> > and an even longer and more elaborate one to say anything very
> > encouraging about ink-and-paper combinations not tested by any third
> > party. That would be good to do, I think, and might result in
> > something useful as a handout or enclosure, but I'm afraid it's a
> > major project.
> >
> > Sam
> >
> >
> > >Whenever I'm asked I always say better than colour and not as good as
> > >selenium toned silver.
> > >
> > >Julian
> > >----- Original Message -----
> > >From: "frankg_photo" <frank@...>
> > >To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > >Sent: Wednesday, December 19, 2001 2:24 PM
> > >Subject: [Digital BW] print sales - longevity claims?
> > >
> > >
> > > > when you sell your "carbon pigment" prints (MIS or Piez), what
claims
> > > > can you safely make regarding the archival issue.
> > > >
> > > > How long can you safely claim the print's integrity under 'normal"
> > > > hanging conditions in a home environment (which I'd say is a fair
mix
> > > > of ambient(uv) & artificial (mostly tungsten) light.
> > > >
> > > > Dark storage, pollutant free, humidity controlled environments are,
> > > > of course, a little different.
> > > >
> > > > I realise this would be specific depending on which paper has been
> > > > used; but I'm just looking for some guidance- or a ballpark range.
> > > >
> > > > thanks
> > > > frank
> >
> >
> >
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