One other point is that the 100% patches are rarely the darkest. beyond some point the density often decreases. You really need to print the file calibration page and find the best ink limit. I have seen best ink limits as low as 45%. PKN really can get up above 2.3 on many papers. I have not tried semigloss. costa --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Jonathan Traupman" <jont@c...> wrote: > I've been doing B&W printing with a 2200 and the UT7 inks for about a > year now and have been getting great results on matte papers with > Eboni black. I drive the printer with Quadtone RIP and build most of > my paper profiles myself with a Noritsu DM-201 densitometer. > > However, I've had very limited success with printing on glossy and > semi-gloss media. The biggest problem I've encountered is that the MIS > Photo Black ink is simply not very dense. > > For example, I'm trying to create a QTR profile for Epson Premium > Semigloss paper. If I print the QTR ink limit file in calibration mode > with all limits set to 100%, the density of the 100% Photo Black patch > is only around 1.9. This is weaker than the densities of the Dark Warm > Gray (2.1) and Dark Cool Gray (2.2) 100% patches. I've actually gotten > better results from profiles that just use the gray inks than from > ones that use PK and the grays, though neither looked particularly great. > > I recently ordered a bottle of the "experimental" PKN Photo Black > Neutral ink since MIS claims it has a higher Dmax than regular PK. > However, I neither noticed nor measured any appreciable increase in > density, at least on the Premium Semigloss paper. It is a more neutral > black, however. > > So, is this normal behavior for the MIS Photo Blacks? With the Epson > UC Photo Black, I routinely got densities of 2.2+ with this paper. It > just seems odd that MIS's Photo Blacks would be this weak, when their > grays clearly indicate that they can make a denser ink. > > My search through the archives yielded little info on this topic, but > it does seem that densities around 1.9 are what people have reported > in the past for these inks. Is this true across papers, or is the > Premium Semigloss just a particularly bad choice for the MIS inks? > > The only potential problem that I can imagine with my setup is that I > have put the PK ink in a light black cartridge and am using it in that > position, because QTR allows me to control which black to use in > software, and I have no need for the "Custom Light Black" that usually > goes there because I'm not using the Epson driver. Perhaps the light > black position in the print had incapable of laying down as much ink > as the black position, but I've never heard mention of this. > > I've already tried asking MIS about this, both on their forums and to > their tech support, but received no response. > > Any help would appreciated. > > -Jon
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Re: Weak blacks with UT7 PK and PKN
2005-09-09 by ccolbertbw
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