Jon- A belated thanks for your reply. You've given me much food for thought, and I appreciate your time. Bill Kennedy -----Original Message----- From: Jon Cone <piezobw@...> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Sent: Sat, 08 Oct 2005 00:50:04 -0000 Subject: [Digital BW] Re: question about CFS systems - K7? Answers for Clayton Bill, answers below: --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, BKPhoto@a... wrote: > > Jon- > > Thanks for the clarification on the ink formulation; it fills in > another blank for me. It would be very helpful if you would elaborate > on the relationship between the print profiles you're authoring for > K7/QTR and the linearization issue. If I've understood you correctly: > you're saying that the authoring process reduces the need to linearize. > It would make sense to me if the machines we're using stayed in a > factory calibrated state, or were self-calibrating. My experience is > that machines do drift as they are used and there are other > factors--ink stock and paper stock, even environmental issues--that > affect the calibrated state of a printing system. > > Any insight you can provide would be very useful. I'm not asking for > proprietary information, just a better understanding of the > relationship between these issues and how you've addressed them. Another way of saying it is there may be less to gain with linearizing a printer and creating simple curves - then to accept the state of the printer but use an elaborate profile which has many overlapping layers of ink to hide any potential flaws in the linearization. Its not just linearization, although linearization is important. In this case its also the quality of the profile. In our free curve files for QTR there is a generic linearization in combination with an exceptional profile. The linearization is averaged over three different 2200 printers (we think that is important rather than using a single example). But the elaborate ink curves if you could see them would boggle you. You couldn't make that by hand or with an instrument using the QTR curves generator. That is what makes the difference. > There is one additional question you might address: the dmax of the K7 > inks. Is it possible to increase the dmax, or are there inherent > limitations or other factors that impose a limit? Well if its TRULY pure pigment there is a limit. We chose to go pure pigment on the K7 set. Adding even a trace of dye increases dMax. But we're not doing it in this set. We found that we could get greater dMax via QTR than the EPSON driver, or even our old plugin. So we decided not to compromise longevity with even a trace amount of dye. regards, Jon Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as they are often being updated. http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same page. Please follow these basic guidelines: - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep them short. - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the membership without notice. - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from the membership. - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner and Moderators. See "Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines" in the Files section: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE "OWNER" AND "MODERATORS" OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. Yahoo! Groups Links
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Re: [Digital BW] Re: question about CFS systems - K7? Answers for Clayton
2005-10-09 by BKPhoto@aol.com
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