Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Doug Wolf" <dwphoto@a...> 
wrote:
>Kodak claims over 100 years. I read their White Paper on how they test; basically, (I think) 
they said they use the accepted method for testing silver prints. Rather than trying to 
remember their methodology and reasoning you can go to their web site and read it for 
yourself. But I suspect the longevity is good. Their White Paper made sense to me, but I'm 
not a professional in this area.

I can speak to what I see in the paper though. I don't have measuring devices, just my 
eyes. The blacks were deeper than the Epson SG and the cloud detail in the photo was 
much more natural; the clouds in the Epson print were warmer. And the Kodak overall had 
better midtones. The Epson mistones looked flat. To my eyes the Kodak print looks better.

I showed the print to other people whose opinion I respect and they felt the same way I 
did.

Someone else on the list thought the Kodak printed cooler. This person saw blueish tones. 
I didn't, but then everyone eyes are different.

I used the 2200 with Epson inks and printed both using the Black-Only method at 2880 
dpi; Gamma 1.8. I also printed both using QTR set for ESG and MCeramicLuster (for Kodak) 
at a 50-50 blend. Same result.

If you have a gift certificate you can't go wrong trying it. A box of 50 sheets costs $34 at 
my CompUSA store, or you can order from B&H and it'll cost $31 for 50 sheets, including 
shipping.

> Steve -
> 
> Thanks for the info - I may give it a try - I've got a $50 store
> credit at compUSA, need something to spend it on...
> 
> What's your sense of longevity with this paper - I know Wilhelm and
> Kodak disagree fairly vehemently on stability testing.
> 
> Another question - what printing method are you using?  I use the UT7
> inks with QTR for most things - what sort of profile and workflow are
> you using for the Kodak paper?
> 
> Thanks -
> 
> Doug
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "steveh0607"
> <steveh060758@m...> wrote:
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> 
> > wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > 
> > Try Kodak Professional Inkjet Lustre. It prints very neutral with
> good tone separation and 
> > contrast. I've compared the same print using the Kodak and Epson
> Semi-Gloss and the 
> > Epson prints warmer with a flatter contrast.
> > 
> > Steve
>