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Re: Kodak White Paper on Image Stability

2005-10-12 by john dean

Well that was what gained him some international attention. Before
that no one dared question Kodak on this issue publicly. They WERE
photography in the US. Everything was for the mass market, with the
emphasis on mass, fast, rc , quick, and ephemeral (kinda like their
disposable digital cameras.) Here today gone tomorra.  At that time
they made no decent black and white paper anymore either, it was all
about the amateur stuff, except Kodachrome, which was their one great
hold over product. Their color negative film was mediocre at best
until Fuji came along and lit a fire under them. So, Wilhelm became
the anti-christ as far as Kodak was concerned, but by that time most
people has already lost their family albums from the 60's an 70's and
the art world at that time was almost all black and white for the most
part. We all knew what was going on. I worked in a museum that
wouldn't buy color work, except Cibachrome, it simply wasn't
collectable at all in a serious way. Henry W. was younger then and
probably not making much money at all this testing stuff. I can't see
 how he made any money at all for all those years as a museum
consultant. Recently I was disgusted with him for a couple of years
for not testing the 3rd party products anymore and joining with Epson
and HP but, the fact is he didn't start his career 30 years ago with
the intent of joining forces with the corporate boys, it just ended up
that way. We all get to retirement age some day, I guess we all gotta
do what we all gotta do.
I don't think it makes what he does invalad from a technical point of
view. I don't think he cooks the books. It isn't a perfect science.
Certainly if one was out to make big money there must be a better way. 

 






--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg"
<dfaprinting@y...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" 
> <deanwork2003@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Kodak, integrity? Give me a break. I delt with their tech reps for
> > years about this issue of their Ektacolor paper fading. I saw
> > classmates of mine in undergraduate school produce outstanding work
> > that faded in no time. Kodak knew their dyes would shift badly.
> > Eventually when Fuji had  came up with a better solution and rather
> > than try to improve the stability of own their papers they just
> > resented Fuji and badmouthed their research. That is why they are
> > dying right now. George Eastmant would turn over in his grave. Their
> > answer was to claim to us that their color technology was stable, it
> > wasn't. Ask any portrait photographer from any decade. Kodak could
> > have made a better product they just didn't care about longevity,
> > never did. They had always owned the world. Well, they lost it.
> >
> 
> Wasn't this exactly what prompted Wilhelm to get started? I think I 
> read that in his book on image permanence. You can download the PDF 
> at his site.
>

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