Carl and Steve: This is exactly the problem I mentioned in an earlier post about profiling the Arches Smooth paper. The Lab values were linear up to a 90% gray. After that (for the 92, 94, 96, 98 and 100% gray) LAB values read: 19.39, 19.06, 18.70, 18.95, 19.39. Rather than correcting this nonlinearity, Create ICC produced an unusable profile with a full scale, retangular spike between LAB 0 and LAB 8 (e.g. LAB 5 was "corrected" to LAB 98). So this supports Carl's description of function (and, I think, reduces the utility of the program). The abnormailty in this case was produced, I think, by the way the ink sits on the Arches coating: way too wet. Walt --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield <scho@m...> wrote: > > Steve, > > Yes, I tried it and it works well. It assumes you have values from 0 > to 100 and just scales accordingly (after sorting). There is a > potential for error if your D values (or inversely L values) to not > increase with increasing gray values, but that would be abnormal. > > Carl > > On Oct 18, 2005, at 9:34 AM, Steve Kale wrote: > > > Actually Carl are you sure about this? It should also need the > > Gray value > > else it does not know for what input the output was generated. > > > > > > > >> From: Carl Schofield <scho@m...> > >> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > >> Date: Tue, 18 Oct 2005 08:45:08 -0400 > >> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > >> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] ICC v. Transfer Function in Epson driver > >> > >> Paul, > >> > >> You don't need all of the data columns. Just a single column of > >> either visual density (labeled either D or V) or Lab L (L label) > >> data. The icc-create droplet will simply assume zero values for Lab > >> a and Lab b if no actual data are present. The density or L values > >> can also be in any order and will be automatically sorted (high to > >> low for L and low to high for D). This with the 2.3.1 version on a > >> Mac but I assume it is the same for the PC version. > >> > >> Carl > >> > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ------------------- - > > ~--> > > Get fast access to your favorite Yahoo! Groups. Make Yahoo! your > > home page > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/dpRU5A/wUILAA/yQLSAA/ucIolB/TM > > ------------------------------------------------------------------ -- > > ~-> > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other > > resources as they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you > > wish to unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by > > visiting this same page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages > > to keep them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or > > flames. Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed > > from the membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital > > B&W printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be > > removed from the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules > > and guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the > > group Owner and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines > > in the Files section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE > > OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL > > NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, > > CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, > > DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER > > INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL > > BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF > > SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY TO USE > > THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR > > CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO > > GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >
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Carl and Steve: ICC v. Transfer Function in Epson driver
2005-10-18 by wwodets
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