Steve, I thought maybe my, in my view too-compressed, low values might just be an artifact of a bad un-adjusted distribution and too few points. So, I tried the Create ICC and Print with Preview workflow with a printing setup that had a reasonably smooth low end. I took readings at every 1% point between 100% and 95%, then at 5% to 80%, and then at 10% intervals. I was also curious if the program needed even distributions of input data. The results were not much different than my previous attempts. Whereas the un-adjusted printing setup separated all the 95% - 100% points reasonably, the output adjusted with the Create ICC compressed the dark tones and posterized the 95% - 100% range. I don't know what caused this, but it's not, in my view, an output that efficiently utilizes the grayscale file information. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > > this is the response I received from Phil Green at the London College of > Communication - the same Phil Green whose names appears at the top of the > www.color.org International Color Consortium site: > > "Two points: the operation may be defined in XYZ but that does not mean > it has to be implemented in XYZ; and a scaling operation will have the > same effect whether it is implemented in XYZ or CIELAB, the only > difference being a slight shift in the low XYZ values close to the > threshold where the cube root function is replaced by a linear scaling." > > FYI the points I quoted below were from Bruce Fraser's Real World Color > Management (pg 41 and 42). > > ... > >To quote Bruce Fraser, Lab originated out of an > > ³attempt to create a > > space that is perceptually uniform in other words, distances between > > points in the space predict how different the two colours will be to the > > human observer.² L* is ³approximately the cube root of the > > luminance value > > Y (which is a rough approximation of our logarithmic response to > > luminance).² The bit in parentheses is critical. Again from Bruce ³the > > primary Y doubles as the average luminance function of the > > [eye¹s] cones.² > > The eye sees luminance as described by XYZ_Y not L*. It makes sense > then to > > scale for white point and black point in XYZ_Y. > > > > It is this Y that we use when talking about density = -log10(XYZ_Y). > Logs > > are nice because they turn non-linear responses such as the eye¹s > > sensitivity to light into straight lines. > > > > > > Cheers > > > > Steve > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See �Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines?in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE �OWNER?AND > �MODERATORS?OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO YOU > FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR EXEMPLARY > DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF PROFITS, > GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE �OWNER?AND > �MODERATORS?OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN ADVISED OF THE > POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE OR THE INABILITY > TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO > OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT > OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY > OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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RE: [Digital BW] ICC v. Transfer Function in Epson driver
2005-10-19 by Paul Roark
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