Carl, Here it is. I'll have more time to get to this later. I don't know if it's the uneven steps, PC or what that is crushing the shadows. For manual input, however, an uneven entry really helps. The shadows are almost always were the action is. I'll post the actual Lab L readings later. File: C:\Documents and Settings\Paul Roark\Desktop\C86_G2_Con-10-out.txt Step Dens Lab A B 0.00 0.034 97.00 0 0 - b L + 10.00 0.148 87.52 0 0 - b L + 20.00 0.233 81.03 0 0 - b L + 30.00 0.338 73.52 0 0 - b L + 40.00 0.465 65.16 0 0 - b L + 50.00 0.599 57.24 0 0 - b L + 60.00 0.783 47.62 0 0 - L b + 70.00 1.012 37.36 0 0 - L b + 80.00 1.229 29.17 0 0 - L b + 85.00 1.340 25.49 0 0 - L b + 90.00 1.429 22.74 0 0 - L b + 95.00 1.519 20.15 0 0 - L b + 96.00 1.534 19.74 0 0 - L b + 97.00 1.542 19.51 0 0 - L b + 98.00 1.572 18.71 0 0 - L b + 99.00 1.574 18.66 0 0 - L b + 100.00 1.607 17.80 0 0 - L b + Created ICC file C:\Documents and Settings\Paul Roark\Desktop\C86_G2_Con-10.icc Paul www.PaulRoark.com _______________________________ > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carl > Schofield > Sent: Wednesday, October 19, 2005 11:54 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] ICC v. Transfer Function in Epson driver > > Paul, > > I thought the steps had to be evenly spaced, but maybe not if you > were able to generate an icc profile. Can you post the text file > that was generated when you made the icc profile? I'm just wondering > how Create-icc treated the uneven steps. My experience has been > that the icc profiles improve shadow separation in 2400 ABW prints, > rather than compress the data. > > Carl > > On Oct 19, 2005, at 10:37 AM, Paul Roark wrote: > > > Steve, > > > > I thought maybe my, in my view too-compressed, low values might > > just be an > > artifact of a bad un-adjusted distribution and too few points. So, > > I tried > > the Create ICC and Print with Preview workflow with a printing > > setup that > > had a reasonably smooth low end. I took readings at every 1% point > > between > > 100% and 95%, then at 5% to 80%, and then at 10% intervals. I was > > also > > curious if the program needed even distributions of input data. > > > > The results were not much different than my previous attempts. > > Whereas the > > un-adjusted printing setup separated all the 95% - 100% points > > reasonably, > > the output adjusted with the Create ICC compressed the dark tones and > > posterized the 95% - 100% range. > > > > I don't know what caused this, but it's not, in my view, an output > > that > > efficiently utilizes the grayscale file information. > > > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND > MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > >
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RE: [Digital BW] ICC v. Transfer Function in Epson driver
2005-10-19 by Paul Roark
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