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Re: [Digital BW] Re: 2400 Shadow separation and linearity . . .

2005-10-22 by Carl Schofield

The VFA dmax is also the highest I've seen for cotton rag papers.   
Strange indeed, but there is more.  I just made an icc profile for  
Hahnemuhle Photo Rag Satin on the 2400 and measured a dmax of 1.74.   
This paper is a rather unique hybrid, but can work fine for some images.

Carl

On Oct 22, 2005, at 3:30 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:

> Very strange, something has changed with the paper then, or the 2400
> does some kind of magic.
> I've never seen a dmax that high from a pigment K on a coated fine art
> paper.
> Not questioning your result, just suprised.
> Tyler
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Carl Schofield
> <scho@m...> wrote:
>
>>
>> Tyler,
>>
>> I had the same findings as Walt concerning VFA vs HPR dmax with the
>> 2400 and k3 MK ink.  HPR about 1.64 and VFA 1.78, both using the VFA
>> media setting.  I tried the other media choices but couldn't get any
>> higher with the HPR.  This is using the Epson driver and ABW mode.
>> Probably need to do some fiddling with the driver controls or better
>> yet just use QTR for the Hahnemuhle papers.  I haven't made any 2400
>> QTR profiles yet for matte papers, so I don't know if a higher dmax
>> is possible.
>>
>> Carl
>>
>> On Oct 22, 2005, at 2:46 PM, Tyler Boley wrote:
>>
>>
>>> Velvet Fine Art is simply rebranded Somerset. Though it is nice  
>>> paper
>>> the Hahnemühle papers have always been able to get a higher dmax and
>>> ink load. In comparing Innova to Hahnemühle I would expect it to
>>> outperform Somerset as well.
>>> I'm not knocking Somerset, I've seen many nice prints on it, but
>>> something unusual must be going on with your tests. Perhaps there  
>>> are
>>> other settings that would take better advantage of the other papers'
>>> capabilities.
>>> Somerset still has one of the nicest surfaces ever produced for our
>>> use.
>>> Tyler
>>>
>>> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets"
>>> <odets@c...> wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>> A friend has just sent me an unmanaged 51-step gray file printed  
>>>> from
>>>> his 2400 and I compared it with the same target printed with my  
>>>> 2400.
>>>> Both targets were printed on Velvet Fine Art, ABW Neutral (Darker).
>>>> For the 90, 92, 94, 96, 98 and 100 steps the measured values are
>>>> shown
>>>> first for his printer and then in parentheses for my printer:
>>>>
>>>> 19.46 (19.38); 17.67 (17.60); 16.63 (16.41); 15.53 (15.48; 14.36
>>>> (14.47); 13.84 (13.83).
>>>>
>>>> So, it seems to me that the consistency between these two
>>>> inexpensive,
>>>> uncalibrated printers is remarkable; and I would point out again  
>>>> that
>>>> the shadow separation, linearity and D-max of this paper seems much
>>>> better than anything else I have measured or than has been
>>>> discussed on
>>>> the forum over the past few days.  My corresponding figures for
>>>> the HPR
>>>> (VFA paper setting) are:
>>>>
>>>> 18.39, 17.63, 17.14, 16.94, 16.69, 16.80.
>>>>
>>>> Walt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
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