Digital BW, The Print

The 4800 profiles I am looking at, all have blackpoints, and you can pick,
simulate-black-ink in PS.  Epson even lists the L* values for convenience.

Epson StylusR Pro 4800
L* Values
Profile Name White / Black Driver Setting Used
SP4800 EM MK 2880.icc 96 / 17 Enhanced Matte at 2880 dpi
SP4800 EVFA MK 2880.icc 98 / 16 Velvet Fine Art Paper at 2880 dpi
SP4800 PAWRC MK 1440.icc 96 / 21 Watercolor Paper - Radiant White at 1440
dpi
SP4800 PAWRC PK 1440.icc 96 / 27 Watercolor Paper - Radiant White at 1440
dpi
SP4800 PGPP250 PK 2880.icc 94 / 3 Premium Glossy Photo Paper (250) at 2880
dpi
SP4800 PLPP PK 2880.icc 94 / 4 Premium Luster Photo Paper at 2880 dpi
SP4800 PLPP250 PK 2880.icc 96 / 5 Premium Luster Photo Paper (250) at 2880
dpi
SP4800 PSMPP250 PK 2880.icc 96 / 7 Premium Semimatte Photo Paper (250) at
2880
SP4800 USFAP MK 2880.icc 98 / 18 UltraSmooth Fine Art Paper at 2880 dpi

Best regards,
John Moody

-----Original Message-----
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of Steve Kale
Sent: Tuesday, October 25, 2005 4:33 PM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] ICC Soft Proofing -- The issue . . .

I have not taken an extensive look but my GM i1 profiles allow checking ink
black without checking paper white but not the other way around.  The point
Walt was making is that he would like to check paper white without checking
ink black.  Such combination is not possible with the GM profiles and I am
not sure it makes sense anyway.  The GM profiles don't have bkpt tags.  None
of the Epson 4800 profiles I looked at allow you to check ink black at all.
None have a bkpt tag.  When I was asking Phil Green about this tag he said
words to the effect that it was "not a mandatory tag in the spec, you can
put it in but you need an application that can make use of it."  We're just
a bunch of colour blind guys who don't know squat about colour, wandering
around in the dark and grey.  Perhaps this is illustrative of the ground we
need to cover, who knows...


> From: John Moody <moodymz3@...>
> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Tue, 25 Oct 2005 15:12:21 -0400
> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] ICC Soft Proofing -- The issue . . .
>
> I don't see any profiles that allow simulate paper color without simulate
> black ink unless they don't have a bkpt tag, so its moot.  Am I missing
> something?
> An interesting example is SPR2400 ProofingSemimatte.icm which does not
have
> a bkpt tag, yet SPR2400 PremSmgls PhotoRPM.icc does.
>
> Does that suggest Epson knows most people don't want to simulate paper
black
> while softproofing?  If any profile were to be used for softproofing, I
> would think ProofingSemimatte would be it.
>
> Best regards,
> John Moody






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