Digital BW, The Print

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "wwodets" <odets@c...> wrote:
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> And what do you think of my speculation on the dmin and USFA?  I 
> think the (relative) dinginess of the HPR makes the blacks look dingy 
> too.

Makes some sense of course. Anything that widens the scale from paper white to ink black 
would help. On the other hand, sometimes some paper/ink just seem to have less life than 
others for reasons hard to quantify.

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> Also, I looked up White Velvet and apparently Hahnemuhle has stopped 
> making it.  I gather you mostly use the Hahnemuhle papers.  Is that 
> correct?  And what would you go to without the White Velevet?

I had no idea they dropped White Velvet, recently bought a bunch. Jimmy Doyle could tell 
us more, it's still on his site.
I do use mostly H papers, but am moving toward some of the Innova paers as well. I'm 
trying to drop PhotoRag entirely in favor of Innova PhotoSmooth. They are nearly 
indistinguishable, with Innova perhpas a bit less flakey, and perhaps less pricey 
stranglehold on the market. I'll test this new Crane also.
Personally I don't like these smooth papers, but clients do, so I must carry them.
Without White Velvet I would begin testing the VFA again, they have certain similarities, 
and you and others are reporting good results.
But how it does with Piezotones is my concern. Before White Velvet we had nothing bright 
white with a pretty tooth, so it's a good option.
Tyler