Steve- I read your last post and found it both intellligible and correct in my understanding and believe it is an understanding that would be useful to any kind of workflow. I wanted to clarify a few points that I think got lost in the shuffle. 1. The first is that Epson actually does recommend a DG20 gray space. In a document from their U.S. website called "Epson Color- Managed Workflow: Getting the Color you Expect in Your Prints," the first page recommends (and shows a screen shot) of the color settings dialogue. The setting is U.S. Prepress Defaults, which is an RGB space of Adobe RGB (1998) and a gray space of Dot Gain 20%. The document implies that it is for "color" workflow and based on "The Epson Stylus Photo 2200 printer . . . but the workflow is similar for other printers." When I questioned this with an Epson tech rep (back in April), he confirmed that the expected working gray space on thwe 2400 was indeed DG 20. 2. In a post to Clayton earlier on in the fray, I mentioned that I used the Gamma 2.2 workspace but the "light" setting in the driver because I got better ICC profiles. (By using the light setting one is doing nothing more than changing the color space of the printer in an easy, reliable, repeatable, consistent way). The reason for my doing this is that the *unmanaged* targets printed for ICC profiles reflect exactly the compression we'd expect of GG 2.2. In the shadows, the closeness of the patches is more difficult for the spectro to discriminate. In some recent tests with Paul (in which we measured our own targets five times and then each others, each with a different instrument and in my case in both patch and strip mode) variations on the order of L* 0.5 were quite common, and I showed one as high as L* 0.88. Thus the target from the light setting makes these errors much less significant and provides more reliable data as a basis for the ICC profile generation. Having better resolution of the data at this level and then recompressing the 85-100 K for visual correctness is, I think, more reliable. So, the issue is not that the target doesn't "look right," it is that the "darker" target is more difficult to reliably read. Incidentally, we both found that the variations from the printer (target to target, printed consecutively) were greater on my 4800 and Paul's 180 (?) than were the variations in spectro reads. All of that said, the magic of the QTR Create ICC has recently made itself known to me again. I have several photographs I am having to reprint. These were originally printed with a DG20 workspace to the 2400 using a workflow similar to Clayton's current one. In reprinting them now to the 4800, I am simply converting to the GG 2.2 profile and printing through the ICC printer profile. The new prints (on a different paper than the originals) are essentially identical to the old ones; different file, different printer, different paper, but the same output. One can't beat that for a reliable, flexible workflow. Best, Walt
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GG 2.2 vs. DG 20 (Was Comparison: K3 versus Ultrachrome)
2005-11-21 by wwodets
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