Digital BW, The Print

If I remember correctly that Agfa 118 paper was a silver rich warm
toned matte paper with a slight luster finish. I actually like it
because it looked kind of like leather. One of my teachers Esther
Parada used it a lot and toned it slightly sepia.

However that paper was not a good choice for a really long tonal
range. It fell rather flat and dull in the shadow and dark midtone
range, like most if not all matte silver papers. 

You might consider the Hahnemuhle Photrag Satin for something similar.
Many people like it exactly for its surface and good tonal qualities.
I have't used it.

Now if you are trying to achieve a similar look to Agfa Portriga
Rapid, the paper I used for many years, you may very well be in luck. 

We have been discussing this new type of inkjet paper by Crane that is
about to be released called Silver Rag. You should do a search on this
list and especially the yahoo large format Epson list to learn more
about it. It is a 100% rag paper that has the surface of an air dried
glossy silver print and a color tone just very, very slightly warm in
the highlights.  Shades Of Paper dot com will be carrying it when it
is realeased. I don't have any samples yet. It apparently has a huge
dmax and was designed for the Photo Black ink, although some have
tested it with the Piezzotone inks with a rip with good results. How
good will be someting I'm very interested in seeing myself since I
hate changing out blacks on big machines.

From everything I have read, after Christmas you are going to hear a
lot of people talking about his paper with the new K3 inkset which 
already has excellent results  with the glossy rc papers in regard to
smoothness, neutrality, and density. I have always hated rc papers for
anything and this new media with these new inksets may very well
change this anti-glossy mindset for me, and probaly a lot of others as
well. We'll see. I am very optimistic about these new possibilities. 

John


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
>
> 
> > My goal is to match vintage Agfa 118 warm matte fiber, but I have not
> > seen any output on inkjet that did - yet.
> 
> Can you describe the finish on that?
> 
> The tone/hue of carbon inks come very close to some of the old
prints I've
> seen, and carbon is the most lightfast there is according to my testing.
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com
>