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Re: [Digital BW] Re: Film vs Digital

2005-12-10 by Tom Baker

The one problem with waiting is that there is a learning curve involved with handling digital.  Just like there was with film.  So, the longer you wait, the longer it will be before you can master the inevitable new medium.
   
  (Oh yes.  I still miss the look of the old Ansco V film in 4x5.  But, it's gone.)
   
  Tom Baker

petexp2 <kafoozalem@...> wrote:
  Ken -- you make some very good points as does the very balanced 
article at Clarkvision.com. It confirms for me that I am not yet 
ready to plunge into digital camera's. However I would be there like 
a shot if I were a wildlife photographer. Presently I have the time 
to spend on afterwork which is very considerable with scanned film. 
If I didn't then digital would become essential.
I await the 25MP digital camera for below $2000! Will I be waiting 
forever?? LOL.

Pete

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "kenstrain2000" 
<kenstrain2000@y...> wrote:
>
> You could have a look at the measurements presented at 
clarkvision.com
> on this subject, for example, (although mainly about colour there is
> some info on B&W). Then you could think how to exploit the benefits
> and avoid the problems with your style of photography.  It is very
> likely possible if you want to, of course not for every possible 
style.
> 
> It is not hard to put noise in your skies if you desire.  Nor are
> blown highlights mandatory.  Digital capture is just another tool 
and
> not a bad one (of course film is fine too).  
> 
> For some subjects I can get great resolution from my digital 
cameras 
> (>10k pixel square images or more from a cheap DSLR using panorama
> tools) -better than I ever got from my SL66. Doesn't suit your 
style?
> No problem!  
> 
> What about "combinez" for as much depth of field as with large 
format
> tilting? Too much work?  I'd argue not much more work than it took 
to
> dev a 4x5 sheet in two-bath.   
> 
> Half way through a day the light changes from "Tech Pan"  to "Delta
> 400" - no problem, I can make characteristic curves as I like in the
> raw converter much better than I ever could with mono developers 
etc. 
> Also a mistake does not ruin the "whole film".  
> 
> Want more dynamic range? Well neg film has great dynamic range but
> appalling resolution in the shadows. Easy (in principle) to mimik 
that
> by using noise reduction in the shadows (actually very tricky to get
> it right, I find, but I think that is my lack of competance). Or by
> stacking images (hard though, even for static subjects).
> 
> For me the two real advantages of digital capture are the 30 times 
or
> so better sensitivity to light (OK, not with quite the same
> resolution, yet, a factor of ~2 to go there), and the option to 
choose
> the characterisitic curve.    The former is invaluable on a mountain
> top, the latter helps a lot in many lighting conditions.
> A big disadvantage is initial purchase cost, but it is getting 
there,
> slowly.  
> 
> Great fun and very rewarding.  Not a replacement in all respects.  
> 
> Ken
>






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