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Re: [Digital BW] Digital Vs. Film

2005-12-11 by Bert Katzung

This whole thread is way off topic, but I can't resist asking the question 
of those who, like Michel, see nothing but chaos in the digital world:
Why is that 95% of pros have switched to digital?
Surely, they did not do it because they like chaos, want their equipment to 
become obsolete within months, have no permanent storage, etc, etc? No, if 
you read Shutterbug, look at Luminous Landscape, etc, and find out WHY they 
switched, you find that they have very good, rational reasons, reasons  that 
apply to amateurs as well as pros.
No one is forcing anyone to switch to digital, just as no one forced people 
to give up horses when cars were invented. Lots of people still prefer 
horses, but few use them to travel professionally.
That's all for me, I'm out of this discussion.
Bert

katzung1@...
www.astronomy-images.com
www.visionlightgallery.com/katzung/


----- Original Message ----- 
From: "lours51" <sinwen@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Sunday, December 11, 2005 12:19 PM
Subject: [Digital BW] Digital Vs. Film


Just my feelings about this very important subject.

I am still using film and will for a long while I guess. At
present if I had to go digital I would only go for a small pocketable
camera.

- Film is a very mature technic it had never been as good.
- Film storage is easy and gives no hassle ; it seems that some
museums make negatives out of digital files due to that.
- With a neg or a slide you have a picture in hand that you can see,
no such thing with a digital file.
- Film forces you to think before you release the shutter.
- As someone said earlier in this thread, the pictures grow in you
and the treatment is also part of my pleasure.
- The camera can be all mechanical, mature technic as well, no
battery, it is very reliable and straight forward to use.

- Digital is just born, the equipment is obsolete within months,
there is no second hand market ; we talk now of curved sensor for
example.
- It is mainly electronics and that's very fragile, it sucks
batteries within a whisper.
- It relies on computer technology forcing you to keep up with both.
- It is very easy to lost your files, they can get easily corrupted
or erased.
- Nonetheless the actual results are promising.

I consider digital to be the typical consumer product, Snap, Look and
Throw, you consume images. As an "amateur", for the reasons mentioned
above, I will never deep in four figures $$$$ into a piece of
electronic equipment, so I eliminate professionnal machines.
And marketing doesn't help, when will we have just a simple camera, I
don't want it to be a thermometer, clock, phone or coffee machine !
I may have one of these toys and use it as such until some of the
inconvenients are in control then I will reconsider my opinion.

One final word, Mister Everybody who bought a digicam, will realise
his mistake the day he will turn back and look for his souvenirs,
there are many chances he won't have any, in return it was so easy to
open a dusty shoebox and find everything in there.

Michel








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