Digital BW, The Print

yeah, Nij, but as I've said thats what Bill Gates says about his OS!

Julian
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nij" <nigel@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Saturday, January 05, 2002 3:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] inks


> Tom,
>
> But don't forget what an open system can achieve - new job-roles and
> specialists charging $$$ who are the only ones who have the time to look
> into the black-box and understand what all the buttons on the outside do.
Of
> course, I am thinking about colour management... and yes, I do suspect
that
> ICC/ICM is probably better than 'what was there before' (nothing???) but
it
> also STILL leaves some users wasting time and prints to get colour right
> (even when they have made substantial efforts to calibrate their system!)
>
> Piezo is still strong in it's simplicity - even if it is less than
flexible
> in allowing 'full-control' of editing ICQ profiles and so forth. The
choice
> to use third-party inks is still reasonably accesible by buying a
cartridge
> starter kit if you want ;)
>
> Just trying to play a little devil's advocate here - I have no particular
> knowledge on Cone's thought process here, and have no particular
preference
> myself as to splitting ink from software, or not. I _will_ tell you though
> that if anyone called me up with a problem printing 'other' inks through
the
> Piezo driver... and the problems were 'tonality' related, I would be
> pretty-much forced to say "Sounds like an ink problem". I'm not saying
that
> support would cease - but I am saying that a certain area of support would
> effectively become 'off-limits'. I imagine you would have similar issues
> calling Epson saying you were having problems with ICM profiles through
> their driver - they WOULD blame something  / someone else ;)
>
> I believe Piezo2 will give end users more flexibility (and therefore
perhaps
> more openness) - but also perhaps more complexity.
>
> Just some thoughts...
>
> Nij  [Looking forward to charging ?1000 per day as a 'grey management
> consultant' <grins>)
>
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: tomoc [mailto:tomoc@...]
> > Sent: 05 January 2002 02:16
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] inks
> >
> >
> > Julian-
> >
> > I wasn't taking a shot at you. Actually, I agree with you completely.
> > This is a very valid criticism of Cone. 2 years ago, there might have
> > been some validity to him wanting to keep his system "pure" since it
> > was undergoing so much development and the alternatives were very
> > much unproven. To maintain this position today is closing his eyes to
> > reality. To try to "manage the market" has been a big mistake for any
> > company that tried. In a field this large, a closed architecture
> > attitude will eventually cause the company great harm. Look at the
> > success of the Palm Pilot against the mighty Microsoft; I believe
> > that the biggest factor here was the developer community was courted
> > by Palm... And Cone may be making the same mistake by not courting
> > the likes of Paul and John who are delivering some pretty incredible
> > tools to us (not to mention they are giving away the help and the
> > inks they write for are half the price of Cone ink...though this is
> > not about price).
> >
> > Anyhow, you make a good point on forcing customers to buy the ink
> > with the software. I believe that should be the customer choice and
> > that most people should and would at least try the Cone ink, so what
> > would be lost by the good will of allowing customer choice?
> >
> > Tom O'Connell
> >
>
>
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