Luminance (the Y in XYZ) = IF(A6>7.9996248, ((A6+16)/116)^3,(A6*27)/24389) Where A6 is Lab L*. Then Density = -LOG10(Luminance) > From: Shilesh Jani <shileshjani@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2006 16:01:28 -0000 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: [Digital BW] Convert LAB to Density Was: QuadTone RIP vs Epson inks > > What is the formula for converting LAB values to density? My puny > mind is incapable of thinking in "L". > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale > <stevekale@b...> wrote: >> >> I have heard that dye has likely been reintroduced with the K3 > inks, >> possibly into the resin that encapsulates the pigment. If I were > Epson I'd >> neither confirm nor deny this however and so we are unlikely to > ever really >> know for sure. The MK ink, however, is the same from K2 to K3 and > so this >> speculation would not apply to MK. >> >> BTW I have been playing around with the Nanochromes. Dmax on HPR > is Lab >> 10.5, 1.3, -1.6. The same (black) ink on EPSG has Lab figures of > 5.3, 1.5, >> -3.5. Epson Archival Matte paper has "normal" performance with > 14.8, 1.4, >> 0.4. Of course we know nothing about longevity yet but if > it's "ok" in that >> respect then this could make a very nice universal black ink if > nothing >> else. No bronzing at all that I can see so far on EPSG but I have > a lot >> more testing to do (I can't see any bronzing in the 918 target and > the >> finish to the inks is very nice). So far I have just been making > ICC >> profiles for EAM, HPR and EPSG and also looking at the results of > printing >> the QTR Calibration Chart, all on my 2100. The figures quoted > above are >> from the calibration page printed at 100% ink limit and reading > the 55%, 40% >> and 80% patches, ie in creating a QTR curve one would likely limit > K on HPR >> to at least 55%. If I recall correctly, this is a lot lower than > what I >> used to use with the MIS UCs or Epson Ucs - I guess that would > save some >> ink. LK is quite cool - 100% ink has Lab figures of 28.9, 0.3, - > 5.7 (55% >> ink patch has 39.2, 0.2, -5.7). It's late here and I'll type up > more of my >> preliminary work tomorrow and post profiles for those interested > in gamut. >> I must say though, a density of 1.92 on HPR looks very nice. >> >> >>> From: Paul Roark <paul.roark@v...> >>> Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> >>> Date: Wed, 11 Jan 2006 15:05:42 -0800 >>> To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com> >>> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] Re: QuadTone RIP vs Epson inks >>> >>>> The Epson matte black has a dye component, ... >>> >>> I don't think this is correct. Do you have an Epson source for > this? >>> >>> I've fade tested the UC MK, and it is very good -- right up > there with >>> Eboni. 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Re: [Digital BW] Convert LAB to Density Was: QuadTone RIP vs Epson inks
2006-01-12 by Steve Kale
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