Digital BW, The Print

Steve,

Thanks a lot - you've just ruined the "feel-good" I was having!

How's it going? Haven't seen you in a print exchange in a while. 
Would love to see more of the Florida Swampland and the Greek Isles. 

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven 
Karafyllakis" <steve@s...> wrote:
>
> Matte paper might well be reflectionless held in your hand, with no 
> glass-but if you put a silver gel print, a semi-matte inkjet print 
> and a matte inkjet print under glass and hang them on the wall, 
they 
> all become equally reflective, since you are now looking at the 
> reflections of the glass. The factors that do not get equalized are 
> the more important ones-the tonal range and dmax of the FB print, 
> the better dmax and shadow detail retention of the semi-matte 
> inkjet. So I for one (since we seem to be conducting another 
> impromptu poll) am not ready to write of the FB look and 
advantages. 
> I've said it before, I'll say it again: I want it all.
> 
>  my 2c worth
> 
> Steven Karafyllakis
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
> <shileshjani@b...> wrote:
> >
> > Hear, hear. Now let us (Epson, or anyone else for that matter)
find 
> a 
> > the K ink which gives us Dmax in the 2 range on matte papers.
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
> Jones" 
> > <cj@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Paul,
> > > 
> > > >...they may have a paper that comes close to the fabled silver 
> > print, 
> > > >but after getting used to matte papers, I'm not sure I want to 
> go 
> > > >back to the silver print look for display prints.
> > > 
> > > Exactly my sentiments, and "fabled" is a good word.  I held on 
> to 
> > that
> > > standard in my mind for a long time, but last summer I searched
> > > through a box of old fiber base silver prints (mostly on 
Oriental
> > > Seagull, Ilford MGFB and Galerie) looking for something and was 
> > struck
> > > by how distracting and annoying the glare and reflections 
were.  
> I'd
> > > forgotten how bad it was and realized how much I've come to 
love 
> the
> > > completely reflectionless carbon ink prints.  
> > > 
> > > I think that was the final step in completely leaving behind 
the 
> > last
> > > traces of desire to recreate the look of emulsion prints of any 
> > sort.
> > > I believe I have now, even subconsciously, fully accepted and
> > > embraced the fact that we are working with a different medium.  
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Clayton
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Info on black and white digital printing at    
> > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > >
> >
>