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Re: Printing On Gloss...Possible with Digital B&W?

2006-01-24 by Shilesh Jani

Jo,

I am not a sprayer ;-), but I have heard good things about Premier 
Art Print Shield. Many months ago, I had painstakingly sprayed an RC 
print with some acrylic from the art supply store. It was very nice, 
but what a hassle, phew. You can always get prints sprayed 
commercially, I guess.

OK, now I know what you have tried, and what you want improved. 
Neither Paul Roark nor Inksupply (MIS) represent UT7 inks as free 
from bronzing. Infact, Paul talks of using GLOP in the Y position to 
help reduce bronzing with this inkset. So my assumption is that as-is 
UT7 will not be much help in reducing bronzing. Perhaps a kind soul 
in this forum who uses the inkset will volunteer to make a print for 
you.

You may want to check messages in thsi forum by Daniel Staver and 
Steve Karafyllakis who I know have played with GLOP, and perhaps 
others too.

The best, sure-fire bet is to use inks specifically designed to do 
what you want, i.e., the Epson K3 inks. You could easily buy the K, 
LK, and LLK 220 ml carts for the 4800 printer, suck the inks out, 
load them into the 2200 carts, write QTR curves, and viola you've got 
the latest and greatest in RC b/w printing. I bet this will produce 
the LEAST bronzing on RC papers than any other 3rd party b/w 
pigmented inset. Oh, boy I hope I have not vaused a firestorm with 
that last statement. 

If I were going down that path, here is what I would do:

K2200 = PK4800
C2200 = C4800
M2200 = M4800
LC2200 = L4800
LM2200 = L4800
LK2200 = LK4800
Y2200 = LLK4800.

This allows you to neutralize in QTR the otherwise warm PK, LK, and 
LLK.

Sounds like fun, doen't it? Welcome to the neurosis I alluded to 
earlier.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne Emerson" 
<jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
>
> Hi Shilesh, yes, I have. I find the results are good on matte paper 
> with QTR but not Epson because of the slight color cast. On gloss 
> paper using the Epson driver, the prints turn out brown with 
> bronzing...very unsatisfactory. Same more or less with QTR. Now 
bear 
> in mind I am using Ultrachrome inks, which is why I'm starting to 
> investigate other inks for my 2200 that hopefully will give me more 
> favorable results. 
> 
> Question: You mention spraying the prints, what do you suggest?
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
> <shileshjani@b...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Jo,
> > 
> > I must ask this: have you printed a b/w photograph with the 2200 
> > using either the Epson driver or QTR? If so, what do you find 
> lacking 
> > in the prints? If it is bronzing, then you can spray the prints.
> > 
> > One we know what your exact needs, we can help you further.
> > 
> > Shilesh
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne 
> Emerson" 
> > <jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello everyone, I'm back from out of town.
> > > 
> > > I can see there's been much discussion about printing b&w on 
> glossy 
> > > media while I've been away. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if 
> anyone 
> > > has answered my question. Yes,I could purchase a 2400 printer, 
> but 
> > > until I do, I'm stuck with this 2200 using QTR or Epson 
drivers. 
> > I'm 
> > > just looking for the best possible solution. Will the UT7 inks 
> give 
> > > me reduced bronzing? Must I also use a GLOP? I'd like to learn 
> more 
> > > about this since printing on glossy or semi glossy media is the 
> > > industry standard for what I do. Finding a solution is becoming 
> > > quite complex and I'm starting to feel like a really dumb 
broad, 
> so 
> > > please be patient with me.
> > > 
> > > Have a good day!
> > > Joanne
> > > 
> > > 
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Chris 
> > Hargens" 
> > > <chargens@s...> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > I'd be interesting in seeing how the Nanochrome inkset would 
> work
> > > > running QTR on a 2200. Seems to me that the chief advantage 
of 
> the
> > > > 2400 -- the ability to print on glossy papers without the 
> usual UC
> > > > gloss differential/bronzing problems -- would be disappear. 
> > > Further,
> > > > with the Nanochromes you would get greater dmax on both matte 
> and
> > > > glossy papers. 
> > > > 
> > > > Chris Hargens
> > > >  
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
> > > Jones"
> > > > <cj@c...> wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hello Bruce,
> > > > > >>In a few days, as soon as my replacement 2400 arrives, I 
> will 
> > > be
> > > > > >>loading Nanochrome K (as the black ink), the Epson MK (as 
> the
> > > > > >>darkest gray), followed by LK, LLK.
> > > > > 
> > > > > >- why aren't you using the NanoChromes as a set? 
> > > > > >What advantage do you see in using the K3s for the color 
> inks? 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Maybe it's because the Nanos aren't made for the K3 
> printers - 
> > > there
> > > > > is no LLK.  
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Regards,
> > > > > Clayton
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Info on black and white digital printing at    
> > > > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

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