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Re: Printing On Gloss...Possible with Digital B&W?

2006-01-24 by Shilesh Jani

Joanne,

Look at the last posting by Steve Karafyllakis. He has volunteered 
to print with MIS K4 inks for you, and I can offer the exact same 
photograph printed on a 2400 using Epson K3 inks. Send us an email 
with the image you want printed.

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne 
Emerson" <jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
>
> Thank you, Clayton!
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
Jones" 
> <cj@c...> wrote:
> >
> > Hello Joanne,
> > 
> > >I can see there's been much discussion about printing b&w on 
> glossy 
> > >media while I've been away. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if 
anyone 
> > >has answered my question. Yes,I could purchase a 2400 printer, 
> but 
> > >until I do, I'm stuck with this 2200 using QTR or Epson 
drivers. 
> I'm 
> > >just looking for the best possible solution. Will the UT7 inks 
> give 
> > >me reduced bronzing? Must I also use a GLOP? I'd like to learn 
> more 
> > >about this since printing on glossy or semi glossy media is the 
> > >industry standard for what I do. Finding a solution is becoming 
> > >quite complex and I'm starting to feel like a really dumb 
broad, 
> so 
> > >please be patient with me.
> > 
> > I can't answer your question because I only print matte, but 
maybe 
> I
> > can offer some perspective as an interested observer.  From
> > discussions on this forum over the past 2+ years since the 2200
> > appeared, it seems that glossy printing has never become 
perfectly
> > satisfactory.  All sorts of things have been tried including 
glop 
> and
> > various sprays, with various inks from UC to UT7 to custom 
> mixtures,
> > and various softwares from Epson to QTR/IP/IJC, etc., in every
> > possible combination.
> > 
> > My impression is that the latest MIS ink with the new base is 
about
> > as good as it has ever been.  But my sense from reading the 
posts 
> is
> > that it's still not perfectly satisfactory (and if I'm wrong on 
> any of
> > this I hope other folks will jump in here and maybe you'll get 
the
> > info you need).  My sense is that the search continues, and 
people 
> try
> > one thing and aren't fully satisfied and then try something 
else.  
> It
> > seems endless, with regular discussions of the merits/demerits of
> > various ink/paper/spray/RIP/curve/workflow combinations.
> > 
> > Out of the fog of battle emerges the 2400 (and other K3 
printers),
> > which apparently the glossy folks are very happy about.  From 
what 
> I
> > understand, it produces very fine glossy prints without bronzing,
> > gloss differential and metamerism, and excellent dmax and 
> smoothness,
> > with complete tone control and without requiring a RIP (again, 
if 
> I'm
> > wrong someone jump in here).
> > 
> > If the above is true, then it seems that it comes down to 
whether 
> your
> > personal techno-fiddling patience threshold allows you to stick 
> with
> > the 2200 and duke it out, or whether you're willing to spend the 
> money
> > to get a 2400 and avoid all the hassles and save time.  Some 
people
> > don't mind tinkering and experimenting (some even love it), and 
> others
> > have no patience for it and just want to do the photography.
> > 
> > What is your time worth?  Will the time you spend experimenting 
> with
> > the 2200 searching for a satisfactory solution (and the 
ink/paper 
> cost
> > of the same) outweigh the cost buying a 2400 and the time/effort 
of
> > selling the 2200?  
> > 
> > I hope this helps.
> > 
> > Regards,
> > Clayton
> > 
> > 
> > Info on black and white digital printing at    
> > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> >
>

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