Digital BW, The Print

Shilesh, I'm a little new to this but where can I find more info on 
the MIS K4 inks? I've searched their website and cannot find any 
reference to these inks. Can you tell me more about them?

Jo
--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Shilesh Jani" 
<shileshjani@b...> wrote:
>
> Joanne,
> 
> Look at the last posting by Steve Karafyllakis. He has volunteered 
> to print with MIS K4 inks for you, and I can offer the exact same 
> photograph printed on a 2400 using Epson K3 inks. Send us an email 
> with the image you want printed.
> 
> Shilesh
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Joanne 
> Emerson" <jojo_xmodel@y...> wrote:
> >
> > Thank you, Clayton!
> > 
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Clayton 
> Jones" 
> > <cj@c...> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello Joanne,
> > > 
> > > >I can see there's been much discussion about printing b&w on 
> > glossy 
> > > >media while I've been away. Unfortunately, I'm not sure if 
> anyone 
> > > >has answered my question. Yes,I could purchase a 2400 
printer, 
> > but 
> > > >until I do, I'm stuck with this 2200 using QTR or Epson 
> drivers. 
> > I'm 
> > > >just looking for the best possible solution. Will the UT7 
inks 
> > give 
> > > >me reduced bronzing? Must I also use a GLOP? I'd like to 
learn 
> > more 
> > > >about this since printing on glossy or semi glossy media is 
the 
> > > >industry standard for what I do. Finding a solution is 
becoming 
> > > >quite complex and I'm starting to feel like a really dumb 
> broad, 
> > so 
> > > >please be patient with me.
> > > 
> > > I can't answer your question because I only print matte, but 
> maybe 
> > I
> > > can offer some perspective as an interested observer.  From
> > > discussions on this forum over the past 2+ years since the 2200
> > > appeared, it seems that glossy printing has never become 
> perfectly
> > > satisfactory.  All sorts of things have been tried including 
> glop 
> > and
> > > various sprays, with various inks from UC to UT7 to custom 
> > mixtures,
> > > and various softwares from Epson to QTR/IP/IJC, etc., in every
> > > possible combination.
> > > 
> > > My impression is that the latest MIS ink with the new base is 
> about
> > > as good as it has ever been.  But my sense from reading the 
> posts 
> > is
> > > that it's still not perfectly satisfactory (and if I'm wrong 
on 
> > any of
> > > this I hope other folks will jump in here and maybe you'll get 
> the
> > > info you need).  My sense is that the search continues, and 
> people 
> > try
> > > one thing and aren't fully satisfied and then try something 
> else.  
> > It
> > > seems endless, with regular discussions of the merits/demerits 
of
> > > various ink/paper/spray/RIP/curve/workflow combinations.
> > > 
> > > Out of the fog of battle emerges the 2400 (and other K3 
> printers),
> > > which apparently the glossy folks are very happy about.  From 
> what 
> > I
> > > understand, it produces very fine glossy prints without 
bronzing,
> > > gloss differential and metamerism, and excellent dmax and 
> > smoothness,
> > > with complete tone control and without requiring a RIP (again, 
> if 
> > I'm
> > > wrong someone jump in here).
> > > 
> > > If the above is true, then it seems that it comes down to 
> whether 
> > your
> > > personal techno-fiddling patience threshold allows you to 
stick 
> > with
> > > the 2200 and duke it out, or whether you're willing to spend 
the 
> > money
> > > to get a 2400 and avoid all the hassles and save time.  Some 
> people
> > > don't mind tinkering and experimenting (some even love it), 
and 
> > others
> > > have no patience for it and just want to do the photography.
> > > 
> > > What is your time worth?  Will the time you spend 
experimenting 
> > with
> > > the 2200 searching for a satisfactory solution (and the 
> ink/paper 
> > cost
> > > of the same) outweigh the cost buying a 2400 and the 
time/effort 
> of
> > > selling the 2200?  
> > > 
> > > I hope this helps.
> > > 
> > > Regards,
> > > Clayton
> > > 
> > > 
> > > Info on black and white digital printing at    
> > > http://www.cjcom.net/digiprnarts.htm
> > >
> >
>