Digital BW, The Print

I'm not yet a refiller, as I've been waiting for the spongeless carts.
 My reading of the posts in this and related groups is that some
people like Clayton seem to get lucky and have a good run with the
spongey carts, whereas others have problems. It's hard to know whether
this is luck or technique.  I decided not to risk it, and wait for the
spongeless carts.  

When I decided to wait, I thought it would not be long.  However MIS
have been promising spongeless carts for the 2100/2200 for ages, and
most recently promised me them early in 2006.  I'm not holding my
breath.  Ironically you can get them from MIS for the newer 2400, but
not yet for the older 2100/2200.

Steve - Do you have any problems getting Les at Mandev to reply to
your emails?  He didn't reply to mine.  He may not wish to ship abroad.

Joanne - you're not a dumb broad.  Your questions are informed,
intelligent and articulate.  I have the same sort of problem/question,
and based on what I've read so far, I'm inclined to try and get some
spongeless carts from Mandev and K4 inks from MIS and see what
happens.  If you're worred about making the whole thing too technical
and trial-and-error, rest assured that refilling the spongeless carts
seems to be a breeze **from what I've read**.

Ferdinand  (lurking and learning)


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale
<stevekale@b...> wrote:
>
> They're shite and I won't touch them.  I'm using spongeless carts from
> Mandev in the UK and they work a treat.  If any air gets in via the
poppet
> valve, say when loading or unloading, it can make its way to the top
of the
> cart.  Basic stuff and it works well.  The sponge carts trap air
around the
> poppet valve.  Avoid them if you can.
> 
> 
> > From: Clayton Jones <cj@c...>
> 
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Printing On Gloss...Possible with
Digital B&W?
> > 
> >> These do NOT appear to be spongless carts, so there may be some
> >> filling technique issues (vacuum fill?).
> > 
> > There is no issue with the MIS 2200 carts with sponges.  I don't know
> > where this irrational obsession with spongless carts has come from.
> > The MIS refillable 2200 carts are great and easy to use.  Just top
> > fill with a syringe through the hole and put in the plug.  Done.  No
> > muss, no fuss, no priming, no vacuum anything.
>