Paul- I use EEM for all my proofing, and VFA and USFA for final prints. With the K3 inks that I use, the VFA is the standout for dmax both visually and by measurement. The VFA not only shows a much better dmax with the K3's than the EEM (roughly 1.79 vs. 1.70), it has none of the "mottling" of blacks that plagues the EEM. On the other hand, the USFA shows about the same dmax as the EEM, though it, too, is free of any mottling. So, both the eye and the spectgrometer suggest that either the EEM and VFA coatings are not the same or that the substrate signficantly affects the performance of the coating. With Eboni, I imagine that none of my comments are reliable. Good wishes, Walt --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@...> wrote: > > > > Epson says at > <http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp? BV_UseBVCookie=yes& > infoType=Overview&oid=-9824&category=Paper+%26+Media> , "... Velvet Fine Art > Paper. With a base that is 100% cotton rag, buffered and acid free, this > paper is coated with our popular Enhanced Matte coating ..." > > In my few tests of the paper with Eboni in the printers, I get essentially > the same dmax as EEM, with which it shares it apparently shares a coating. > > > Paul > www.PaulRoark.com > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Carl > > Schofield > > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:46 PM > > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: epson velvet fine art paper > > > > My observations and dmax measurements suggest otherwise. Epson > > Velvet Fine Art is the matte paper dmax champ with k3 MK inks so far > > at 1.75+ and Museo II is way back in the pack with the others at > > around 1.6+. > > > > Carl > > > > > > On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:24 PM, ginnylady33 wrote: > > > > > I recently compared the Velvet Fine Art with Museo II. The main > > > difference that I saw was the Museo II had deeper blacks. > > > Significantly so. > > > Best > > > Ginny > > > > > > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dhaaron69" > > > <dhaimaging@> wrote: > > >> > > >> I recently purchased a supply of k3 ink carts for my 2400, > > >> at Comp USA. I noticed they had a supply of epson velvet fine art > > >> paper. So I purchased 2 packages at $69.00 ea. (13 x 19) because the > > >> 2400 has profiles for this paper. There is nothing wrong with this > > >> stuff. My negs never looked so good, It has beautiful grays sort of > > >> like the old defender series type silver paper. In comparison to > > >> crane > > >> museo which was my de-facto standard (can be finicky) I am glad I > > >> stumbled across fine art velvet. > > >> > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > > they are often being updated. > > > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > > page. > > > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > > them short. > > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > > membership without notice. > > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > > the membership. > > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > > and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files > > section: > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND > > MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > > OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > > > > > > > >
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[Digital BW] Re: epson velvet fine art paper
2006-02-11 by wwodets
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