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[Digital BW] Re: epson velvet fine art paper

2006-02-11 by wwodets

Paul-

I use EEM for all my proofing, and VFA and USFA for final prints.  
With the K3 inks that I use, the VFA is the standout for dmax both 
visually and by measurement.  The VFA not only shows a much better 
dmax with the K3's than the EEM (roughly 1.79 vs. 1.70), it has none 
of the "mottling" of blacks that plagues the EEM.  On the other hand, 
the USFA shows about the same dmax as the EEM, though it, too, is 
free of any mottling.

So, both the eye and the spectgrometer suggest that either the EEM 
and VFA coatings are not the same or that the substrate signficantly 
affects the performance of the coating.  With Eboni, I imagine that 
none of my comments are reliable.

Good wishes,
Walt


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@...> wrote:
>
> 
> 
> Epson says at
> <http://www.epson.com/cgi-bin/Store/ProductMediaSpec.jsp?
BV_UseBVCookie=yes&
> infoType=Overview&oid=-9824&category=Paper+%26+Media> , "... Velvet 
Fine Art
> Paper. With a base that is 100% cotton rag, buffered and acid free, 
this
> paper is coated with our popular Enhanced Matte coating ..."
> 
> In my few tests of the paper with Eboni in the printers, I get 
essentially
> the same dmax as EEM, with which it shares it apparently shares a 
coating.
> 
> 
> Paul
> www.PaulRoark.com 
> 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf 
Of Carl
> > Schofield
> > Sent: Friday, February 10, 2006 5:46 PM
> > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Re: epson velvet fine art paper
> > 
> > My observations and dmax measurements suggest otherwise.  Epson
> > Velvet Fine Art is the matte paper dmax champ with k3 MK inks so 
far
> > at 1.75+ and Museo II is way back in the pack with the others at
> > around 1.6+.
> > 
> > Carl
> > 
> > 
> > On Feb 10, 2006, at 8:24 PM, ginnylady33 wrote:
> > 
> > >   I recently compared the Velvet Fine Art with Museo II. The 
main
> > > difference that I saw was the Museo II had deeper blacks.
> > > Significantly so.
> > >  Best
> > >  Ginny
> > >
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dhaaron69"
> > > <dhaimaging@> wrote:
> > >>
> > >> I recently purchased a supply of k3 ink carts for my 2400,
> > >> at Comp USA. I noticed they had a supply of epson velvet fine 
art
> > >> paper. So I purchased 2 packages at $69.00 ea. (13 x 19) 
because the
> > >> 2400 has profiles for this paper. There is nothing wrong with 
this
> > >> stuff. My negs never looked so good, It has beautiful grays 
sort of
> > >> like the old defender series type silver paper. In comparison 
to
> > >> crane
> > >> museo which was my de-facto standard (can be finicky) I am 
glad I
> > >> stumbled across fine art velvet.
> > >>
> > 
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