Digital BW, The Print

They never did get the quad mono ink capability to work to my knowledge.
I did not know they put in separate B&W environments, that was not an option when I 
played with it some time ago. But yes, that's what I meant.
Whether or not standard K3 CMYK environemts with 100% GCR are optimal for both critical 
mono and color remains to be seen, in my opinion. Certainly they will "work", for both.

ColorBurst and Imageprint are different animals and for different people. I was only 
refering to IPs B&W mode for the original poster, looking for a solution for both from the 
same ink set. I didn't realize Colorburst now has some canned solution along those lines 
as well.

It's hard to believe the i1 would remain unsupported for some of this for long...
The RIP thing in general though, I still insist most don't need it, or the grief that comes 
with it. Some absolutely do, most do not.
Tyler

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@...> wrote:
>
> They removed the quadtone capability from the Photo series (it remains in
> the Windows Layout series - more expensive) but it prints very good B&W in
> colour mode with OEM inks.  So it's not a dedicated B&W ink set solution but
> neither is Imageprint.  For the UC inks there are separate B&W and Colour
> environments.  (I think this is what you are referring to.)  This was deemed
> unnecessary for the K3 inks.  To quote Sarah Smith from Colorburst Tech
> Support:
> 
> "We found that it was necessary to have two separate profiles (color and
> b&w) for the previous UltraChrome series of printers.  A more aggressive
> black generation setting produced better monochromatic images, but
> sacrificed some color.  However, with the new K3 printers and the addition
> of the light black ink, the same black generation setting can be used for
> both types of images without sacrificing quality."
> 
> The thing I find appealing with Colorburst is that it has the Monaco engine
> CMYK profiling (albeit it doesn't support my i1 !). This is a very expensive
> add-on for, say, Studioprint.  SP of course seems to have enough options to
> make your head swirl and also has quadtone functionality.  I would simply
> say that for someone looking at a colour ink RIP then Colorburst merits a
> good look and would seem to offer significantly more functionality to
> someone with an X-Rite spectro than IP.
> 
> 
> > From: Tyler Boley <tyler@...>
> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 20:24:29 -0000
> > To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
> > Subject: [Digital BW] Re: Da Vinci Fibre Gloss Paper
> > 
> > Last I looked Colorburst had no built in B&W mode like ColorByte.
> > THis is not to say you couldn't make a custom ink setup and profile
> > for decent B&W with UCs and Colorburst, but I don't believe there is a
> > canned mode for it like ImagePrint.
> > Tyler
> >
>