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Re: [Digital BW] state of the art archival b/w digital out put

2006-03-10 by Brian Ellis

"Are you saying it's not possible for a reasonably intelligent person to 
take
the 4-day Black and White Digital Fine Print workshop (K7) at Cone's and
produce gallery quality prints from artist's files in a very short time?"

I haven't taken the Cone course but I did take George deWolfe's one week b&w 
digital printing course at the Palm Beach Photographic Workshops. If Cone's 
is as good as George's you certainly can make very good prints after taking 
that workshop. Whether they're "gallery quality" in a "very short time" 
depends on what you mean by those terms. I don't think you'll be making 
prints ready to be hung in MOMA after taking a four day workshop. OTOH, I 
think you can make very good prints in a short time (maybe a month or two) 
if you go into the workshop with a working knowledge of Photoshop, do some 
study on your own before and after the workshop,  and have done some digital 
printing before the workshop. I think it helps a lot if you were a good 
darkroom printer before moving to digital.

Obviously different people learn at different rates and, more importantly, 
some are simply more talented than others and so will make things better 
faster. But in general I don't think it takes years and years to make very 
good prints digitally, assuming you have the innate ability to do so (and if 
you don't have that innate ability years and years won't help much).


---- Original Message ----- 
From: "John Moody" <moodymz3@...>
To: <DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com>
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:50 AM
Subject: RE: [Digital BW] state of the art archival b/w digital out put



-----Original Message-----
From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com]On Behalf Of john dean
Sent: Friday, March 10, 2006 10:06 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] state of the art archival b/w digital out put

It isn't any easier than anything else. When photography came along
people thought it could make them instant artists; it didn't. When
digital output came along people thought it would make them instantly
creative art printmakers, it won't anymore than the old chemical days.
You have to put in years like he said to be really good, and some
people don't have what it takes even after many years. I know
photographers who still can't see color well after decades of hard
work, while other students see it very quickly. Black and white is
even more difficult.

As for high-end printmaking, most people can't do it anymore than
someone who has the cash on hand to buy a great jazz guitar will make
them a concert quality musician. I can tell you exactly what you need
to buy and what you need to read to be a musican, but that won't
produce the art. You many have it or you may not. There are no
shortcuts no matter what the Epson ads tell you. There is no manual to
tell you how to think visually, only technically.

John






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