I used pyro on a couple of films a while back and while I was impressed with the lack of grain in areas of continuous tone (sky etc.) I found the grain quite exagerated in other areas compared to some other developers. I used FP 4 and Pan F in 35mm and have a Minolta Scan Dual III. The Pan F was fairly grainless but was very high contrast so highlights didn't hold a great deal of detail. I didn't use an alkaline fixer which I understand makes a difference to the stain. Perhaps I should have another go with an alkaline fix and reduce my dev time... (I'm afraid I've been chasing silver bullets for a while and never settle long enough on any technique to really work it out properly. When will I learn?) One idea I've recently had was simulating the effects of Pyro in Photoshop. Roughly speakly: 1) Develop and scan your film as normal - I like to apply a slight USM with no threshold to make the grain less mushy, but your scanner might be better than this. 2) Use grain removal software (eg Neat Image / Noise Ninja) to produce a reduced grain version of the original. 3) Create a photoshop file with two layers: the full grain and the smooth. Probably put the grainy version on the bottom. 4) Create a layer mask for the top layer using the technique described for capture sharpening here: http://www.creativepro.com/story/feature/20357-2.html. Blend the two images by eg setting the opacity of the top layer to 50%. I've inconclusively played around with this but wonder if anyone else has some similar techniques up their sleeve. Some further thoughts: 1) You could do this in reverse using digital capture (another silver bullet): your initial capture becomes your grain-free layer and you can create a layer with added noise as your grain layer. 2) Speculatively: you could use a pyro negative to emphasise this effect if you could somehow separate the grain and the mask into layers. You would probably need a really good stain to stand any chance of getting this to work. Chris
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Re: Scanning Pyro Negs?
2006-03-29 by Chris Ellis
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