Digital BW, The Print

Paulo,

I tested 2 gloss materials from Pictorico, one of which was a gloss 
paper, and the other a plastic sheet, which is then one referred to in 
the article. The gloss paper was the best I could find at the time for 
Epson dye inks, good enough to use to make a set of prints that I was 
going to submit to a publisher until the friend I gave them to take in 
dropped them in a puddle.

As you say the plastic doesn't give the kind of feeling of a fine arts 
picture, whether you compare it with Hahnemuhle or any fiber-based 
photographic paper. As I said, it might be good for a graphic display 
because it was pretty punchy for inkjet. But not for anyone interested 
in fine art printing.

It also produced some very odd effects when the print was viewed from an 
angle, with odd colours and different reflection. Probably the worst 
material I've used from that point of view.

I hope this makes it clearer,

Peter

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paulo030947 wrote:
> Dear Peter,
> I\ufffdve noticed that yr comment on the Pictorico went unanswered and 
> uncommented in this forum. Since I have been using this paper for 
> some time, and find it very good with the Epson 2400, I wonder if you 
> could qualify better your comment of it giving "the ugliest prints 
> I'd ever seen". Is your judgement related to something in the nature 
> of all glossy papers or is it specific to Pictorico? I found it gives 
> rich blacks, extremely sharp pictures and a good tone gradation. I\ufffdve 
> compared it with the pictures of Brooks Jensen in Hahnemuhle Photo 
> Rag 310gms/m2, and being a glossy, almost plastic paper one does not 
> get the same feeling of fine arts picture, but this is another kind 
> of consideration, or was it what you meant? Living quite far from the 
> main photo centers, I can only expand my knowledge through foruns 
> like this, so I would highly appreciate your comments.
> Paulo
>
>
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Peter Marshall 
> <petermarshall@...> wrote:
>   
>> When I tested the range of Pictorico papers I concluded that the 
>> Pictorico Photo Gallery Hi-gloss White Film gave the ugliest prints 
>>     
> I'd 
>   
>> ever seen. I can imagine it being popular for display graphics but 
>>     
> never 
>   
>> for fine art prints.
>>
>> I think the publication of this piece shows a complete lack of 
>>     
> editorial 
>   
>> judgement by the web site concerned, it should clearly have had a 
>> heading that marked it as advertising material.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Peter Marshall
>> petermarshall@...   
>> _________________________________________________________________
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>> London's Industrial Heritage: http://petermarshallphotos.co.uk/
>> The Buildings of London etc:  http://londonphotographs.co.uk/
>> and elsewhere......
>>
>>
>>
>> john dean wrote:
>>     
>>> I suspect a lot of that was true about the physics of the surface 
>>>       
> and
>   
>>> ink density, and K3, despite the ad for Imageprint, Epson, and
>>> Pictorico. It could have been stated in one paragraph. But I can't
>>> help but think that these "revolutionary" advancements are wasted 
>>>       
> on
>   
>>> such amazingly pedestrian photography. Now that is technology 
>>>       
> wasted.
>   
>>> John 
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>       
>
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