Digital BW, The Print

"Now say I have a job that I want to produce 20 portfolios of 12 -
16x20 prints each, like I'm working on now. On a 60" printer that is
fast, imagine how much less time (and table space in my studio!) this
would take."

That brings up an interesting issue.  I run a 9600 in my studio printing for myself and 
others.  One of the most time consuming things I do is cut and trim smaller prints off 
multiples on the roll and I particularly hate having to deal with flattening them out as well.  
For smaller sizes such as 17" x 22" down, I would suggest the opposite approach to a 
wider format printer.  Here, something like the Epson 4800 would be great as you could 
feed it sheets and just let it go and possibly not have to deal with triming and cutting to 
size, thats if we could get people to accept all the non standard sizes such as 11"x17", 
13"x19" and 17"x22".  Why on earth don't the Paper manufacturers AND Printer companies 
use the standard sizes such as 11"x14", 16"x20", 20"x24"...thats what photographers are 
used to and thats what also fits perfectly in most non custom made frames.  

Tariq


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "john dean" <deanwork2003@...> 
wrote:
>
> Yea, me too Jules. Canvas is the fastest growing thing for me both for
> painters and photographers. People like the idea of not having to
> frame and put work behind glass. Silk is becoming desirable too. What
> I have always liked about the Epson pizzo machines is their ability to
> handle just about any kind of media from high gloss, to fine rag, to
> alternative media like linen. HP couldn't do that. Now apparently they
> can and so can Canon.
> 
> As to size. There are two considerations. First, like this week I did
> several 40x60's of water reflection drum scans on canvas. Do you have
> any idea how long these took to output on my 9600? All day to rip and
> print a couple. My 10K was ok but this 9600 is a joke in that regard
> and I can't imagine the 9800 is that much better.
> 
> Now say I have a job that I want to produce 20 portfolios of 12 -
> 16x20 prints each, like I'm working on now. On a 60" printer that is
> fast, imagine how much less time (and table space in my studio!) this
> would take. I  could justify the extra cash for that machine in one
> big job. I'm not saying I would be doing these big orders every day,
> but once a month would be nice. And the big things, they would come
> flying out of there and out of my house. It would be like having an
> assistant that I can't afford. 
> 
> The big thing is also printer durabilty and replaceable head design.
> But I want to see the monochrome output before I make any plans to
> dump Epson. And I don't think I'd even consider not using Cone's new
> inkset, for any reason for a lot of my black and white. But that is
> another issue for another printer.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@...m, "lulalake_1999"
> <lulalake_1999@> wrote:
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley" 
> > <tyler@> wrote:
> > >
> > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Greg" 
> > <dfaprinting@> wrote:
> > > >
> > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler 
> > Boley" 
> > > > <tyler@> wrote:
> > > > > I have two 9xxx Epsons, but I mainly print for photographers. I 
> > > > have yet to put a roll on either 
> > > > > one. 
> > > > 
> > > > I guess you don't do much on canvas or other fabrics?
> > > 
> > > Maybe this is strange, but I've yet to meet a photographer 
> > interested in printing their work on 
> > > canvass. In fact it's never ever even come up in conversation.
> > > But it'll probably happen the same day the billboard guy walks in.
> > > Tyler
> > 
> > 
> > Been to the UK recently?
> > On Muswell hill, in London is a large art print shop that has I would 
> > say half of the prints on the wall are printed on canvas. It's common 
> > there. I am a photographer that prints on canvas regularly.
> > 
> > It's happening Tyler.
> > 
> > Jules
> >
>