Brian, I'm not real sure what workflow you're using. But, it sounds like the problems could be with the dark ink(s) being injected by the printer before there is enough of the lighter ink to hide them. If the problem is due to the dark grays, I'd expect them to show up closer to 60%. If they were both being injected at about the same time due to a grayscale workflow, some RGB curves might be able to separate where in the image the crossover occurs. Since the problem area is further down, I'd guess it's the black ink being injected before the dark grey inks can hide it. If the workflow you're using includes the driver being set to "Color Controls" I'd consider switching that to No Color Adjustment. That allows the midtones to go all the way up to their maximum ink limit. The print might be too dark, so a grayscale curve or using Create ICC to linearize the system might be needed. This is sort of a guess, but it might be worth a try. Paul www.PaulRoark.com > -----Original Message----- > From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Brian > Chapman > Sent: Friday, May 12, 2006 10:17 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com > Subject: [Digital BW] Transitions > > In a previous post I mentioned the "stepped" transitions between areas > of light and dark in some of the images I have tried printing. > > Here's a link to one of the previous messages: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/message/7715 > 1 > > Some additional experimenting and learning has led me to believe that > the transitions between dark and light in a general sense were only > part of what I was seeing. The real issue is between different > densities of dark where the mixes of ink changes. When I printed out > the step wedges from Paul's site (on EEM using Pauls profile for EEM > and Gamma 2.2 for the printer driver gamma setting) I noticed there > are a couple of "transition" density levels where the different mixes > of ink show up more obviously than others - between 70 & 80% and again > between 80 and 90%. > > For 99% of images this isn't an issue but in images where the sky is > very dark and therefore has large areas where those transitions > mentioned above occur it becomes visible - almost like a line across > the page wherever those transitions occur. (It's much easier to see > the transitions on wide areas where it occurs - I didn't notice it > when I was printing test strips (1"x8") from the center of the image > below. This result doesn't occur with BO printing because it's all > the same ink. > > Here is an example: > http://www.flickr.com/photos/brianechapman/75838437/ > > Does anyone have any suggestions to reduce the effect? > > Sorry for the long post, I just wanted to make sure I gave enough info! > > Thanks!! > > Brian > http://www.brianchapmanphotography.com > > > > > > > > Please visit the Group Homepage to check the Files, and other resources as > they are often being updated. > > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint > > If you wish to receive no emails or just a daily digest, or you wish to > unsubscribe, please edit your Membership preferences by visiting this same > page. > > Please follow these basic guidelines: > - As threads develop, trim off excess portions of earlier messages to keep > them short. > - Good manners are required at all time. No personal attacks or flames. > Hostile, aggressive or argumentative users may be removed from the > membership without notice. > - Keep your posts and threads related to the group topic of digital B&W > printing. Users who persistently make off-topic posts may be removed from > the membership. > - By posting on this forum you agree to abide by the group rules and > guidelines, and to abide by the actions and decisions of the group Owner > and Moderators. See Group Topic, Rules and Guidelines in the Files > section: > http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/files/ > > BY PARTICIPATING IN AND/OR POSTING MESSAGES TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO! GROUP YOU EXPRESSLY UNDERSTAND AND AGREE THAT THE OWNER AND > MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP SHALL NOT BE LIABLE TO > YOU FOR ANY DIRECT, INDIRECT, INCIDENTAL, SPECIAL, CONSEQUENTIAL OR > EXEMPLARY DAMAGES, INCLUDING BUT NOT LIMITED TO, DAMAGES FOR LOSS OF > PROFITS, GOODWILL, USE, DATA OR OTHER INTANGIBLE LOSSES (EVEN IF THE > OWNER AND MODERATORS OF DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP HAVE BEEN > ADVISED OF THE POSSIBILITY OF SUCH DAMAGES), RESULTING FROM: (i) THE USE > OR THE INABILITY TO USE THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT YAHOO GROUP; (ii) > UNAUTHORIZED ACCESS TO OR ALTERATION OF YOUR TRANSMISSIONS OR DATA; (iii) > STATEMENTS OR CONDUCT OF ANY THIRD PARTY ON THE DIGITAL BW, THE PRINT > YAHOO GROUP; OR (iv) ANY OTHER MATTER RELATING TO THE DIGITAL BW, THE > PRINT YAHOO GROUP. > > Yahoo! Groups Links > > > > >
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RE: [Digital BW] Transitions
2006-05-13 by Paul Roark
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