Digital BW, The Print

With the glossy rc papers and even with Silver Rag with most inksets,
such as Ultrachrome K2, the Premier Art Spray does eliminate the gloss
differential relief look which for me compromises those surfaces. With
Epson K3 the Silver Rag does in my opinion benefit from the Premier
Art or Lyson Printguard sprays and evens out that sheen. But K3 looks
pretty good to me without it on Silver Rag but not with the Epson rc
gloss papers which still have unacceptable bronzing and gloss diff
problems.

The main reason I use these sprays though is 1. to provide permanence
protection 2. provide surface protection. We all know how vulnerable
these prints are when handled and not behind glass, especially the
blacks. However, Epson's new inks are tougher, and Cones new pigments
are really tough, and almost completely waterproof. 

Do the sprays stink, yes. Are they toxic, hell yes. Is Premier Art
delivering on its promise to provide an aerisol spray for an Eco,
non-toxic spray that does not adversly change the surface of the
print. No they are not. I'm still waiting. We're totally there for
canvas with the uv acrylic varnishes, but prints... we need a safer
solution.

John




--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley"
<tyler@...> wrote:
>
> I agree with this wholeheartedly. But primarily, I don't see the need
> to fix something that only looks irritating when lit in such a way
> that you can't look at the image anyway. ???
> More to the point, I doubt there is such a glass. Others could comment
> on sprays, but I've yet to see a post here with an "this paper/spray
> is it!" exclaimation.
> On other papers over the years, I've played with Krylon, Lascaux
> (sp?), Golden, and Print Guard. I found no particular advantage, but
> mostly, just plane hated working with sprays of questionable toxicity
> and environmental impact. They all smelled like they wouldn't pass the
> canary test, and my dog ran away from them.
> Tyler
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cort Anderson
> <cort@> wrote:
> >
> > I just don't understand the need to try and exactly duplicate the  
> > look of a silver print with inkjet. Yes, inkjet prints on matte  
> > papers have their own unique look, what is wrong with it? What if
all  
> > through out the history of photography the main concern was to make  
> > all new technology look just like the old technology, where would
we be?
> > 
> > cort
> > 
> > On May 17, 2006, at 6:30 PM, bobbysandstrom wrote:
> > 
> > > When viewing silver rag under the proper lighting, you can NOT
tell  
> > > the difference between an
> > > HSR made on a 4800 with K3 inks and a traditional Silver Gelatin
FB  
> > > print. The obvious telltale
> > > sign is the paper surface when viewed under the wrong angle of  
> > > light. This got me wondering
> > > if there exists a glass that could be used to frame that would  
> > > conceal the surface texture. Or,
> > > is there a spray that'll do that without killing the glow of the  
> > > print.
> >
>