Digital BW, The Print

John, Have you tried the DCP sprays? And if some one is looking for a "looks
like"...  I Really like the 1:1 satin to glossy light spray of DCP on Innova
Photo Smooth and Cranes Museo Max. 

AS for a glass to make it hide? There are some glasses that are spendy such
as Demi glass that might do the trick. 

Eric Neilsen Photography
4101 Commerce Street
Suite 9
Dallas, TX 75226
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http://ericneilsenphotography.com
 

> -----Original Message-----
> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of john
> dean
> Sent: Thursday, May 18, 2006 12:10 AM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: Re: [Digital BW] Framing Glass to hide Silver Rag Luster??
> 
> With the glossy rc papers and even with Silver Rag with most inksets,
> such as Ultrachrome K2, the Premier Art Spray does eliminate the gloss
> differential relief look which for me compromises those surfaces. With
> Epson K3 the Silver Rag does in my opinion benefit from the Premier
> Art or Lyson Printguard sprays and evens out that sheen. But K3 looks
> pretty good to me without it on Silver Rag but not with the Epson rc
> gloss papers which still have unacceptable bronzing and gloss diff
> problems.
> 
> The main reason I use these sprays though is 1. to provide permanence
> protection 2. provide surface protection. We all know how vulnerable
> these prints are when handled and not behind glass, especially the
> blacks. However, Epson's new inks are tougher, and Cones new pigments
> are really tough, and almost completely waterproof.
> 
> Do the sprays stink, yes. Are they toxic, hell yes. Is Premier Art
> delivering on its promise to provide an aerisol spray for an Eco,
> non-toxic spray that does not adversly change the surface of the
> print. No they are not. I'm still waiting. We're totally there for
> canvas with the uv acrylic varnishes, but prints... we need a safer
> solution.
> 
> John
> 
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Tyler Boley"
> <tyler@...> wrote:
> >
> > I agree with this wholeheartedly. But primarily, I don't see the need
> > to fix something that only looks irritating when lit in such a way
> > that you can't look at the image anyway. ???
> > More to the point, I doubt there is such a glass. Others could comment
> > on sprays, but I've yet to see a post here with an "this paper/spray
> > is it!" exclaimation.
> > On other papers over the years, I've played with Krylon, Lascaux
> > (sp?), Golden, and Print Guard. I found no particular advantage, but
> > mostly, just plane hated working with sprays of questionable toxicity
> > and environmental impact. They all smelled like they wouldn't pass the
> > canary test, and my dog ran away from them.
> > Tyler
> >
> > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Cort Anderson
> > <cort@> wrote:
> > >
> > > I just don't understand the need to try and exactly duplicate the
> > > look of a silver print with inkjet. Yes, inkjet prints on matte
> > > papers have their own unique look, what is wrong with it? What if
> all
> > > through out the history of photography the main concern was to make
> > > all new technology look just like the old technology, where would
> we be?
> > >
> > > cort
> > >
> > > On May 17, 2006, at 6:30 PM, bobbysandstrom wrote:
> > >
> > > > When viewing silver rag under the proper lighting, you can NOT
> tell
> > > > the difference between an
> > > > HSR made on a 4800 with K3 inks and a traditional Silver Gelatin
> FB
> > > > print. The obvious telltale
> > > > sign is the paper surface when viewed under the wrong angle of
> > > > light. This got me wondering
> > > > if there exists a glass that could be used to frame that would
> > > > conceal the surface texture. Or,
> > > > is there a spray that'll do that without killing the glow of the
> > > > print.
> > >
> >
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