There you go Mark! I've thought about doing this about 2 years ago but I FORGOT all about doing it. Yes, I will try that. I assume you are already doing it ;-). I had a teacher many years ago Todd Walker, who specialized in very high end oil based photo silk screen work, with each element built up on top of and and overlapping the next. He would normally use about 20 printings for one image (20 screens)! Some of them could go up to 50 or more. They were the most opulant use of color photography that I had ever seen. Most of this transparency effect was the result of these subtle, often thin layers of color acting as opacity layers with "endless possibilities". I know exactly what you are talking about and it is time I tried it. Later Todd did the same technique by running rag paper sheets over and over again through an offset press, each layer was a different inked plate. If he were alive today I know he would be doing this on the Epson printers, no doubt about it. It is time I tried some of that, not just for creating warm backgrounds but also for color work. It aint the same as making opacity masks in Photoshop. That is a totally different ballgame. Thanks for reminding me. Too many things on my mind. John --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Mark Savoia <mark@...> wrote: > > John, > Have you tried to print a solid color (on color printer with color > inks) on your favorite paper in your favorite "warmth" and then > reprint over it in black and white? Endless possibilities. > Mark > > On May 24, 2006, at 4:20 PM, john dean wrote: > > > > > > > I think this K7 inkset will work beautifully on any Epson out there. > > All the Hahnemuhle papers look great, neutral with rich blacks and > > subtle highlight info just out of QTR. > > > > The Premier Art Hotpress prints very cool and totally different than > > any of the others, if you like a fairly strong cool neutral. > > > > Which reminds me,.... when is someone going to make a really warm high > > quality rag paper? Cone says the Innova Cold Press prints warm neutral > > with the K7 set, but I can't imagine it being that warm but I haven't > > tried it yet. Oh, I miss Concorde Rag, which had the look but doesn't > > hold up to daylight. 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[Digital BW] Re: Piezography Neutral K7 and creating warm rag media
2006-05-24 by john dean
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