Digital BW, The Print

Thank you very much for that speedy reply. Hmm , so the dyes didn't
react well with the glop ? Sad to hear. I don't have any pigment based
inks right now , nor do I know which work best. It's great to get
confirmation on this printer's capability using pigments. I've heard
this before on dpreview, but the poster didn't elaborate much. The
only pigment based printer I ever owned was a cx5400 and it had a
waste tube problem , that and clogging. One thing I remember from
using that printer is that some areas that had lots of black in them ,
came out with a copper looking sheen . Almost like I used metallic ink
. Is this bronzing ? And would gloping cure this ? If I can get my
r320 ( from what I understand , the r200 to the r320 are basically the
same printer with extra's ) to at least be on par with my cx5400 in
terms of print quality , then all would be worth it . hmmm , you
mentioned pigment ink sitting on the surface ? Sort of like it was
painted on , embossed looking ? Would gloping over this remove that
effect? 

I use to build scale models . One method I would use to make the
decals look like they were flat , was to varnish the kit with krylon
clear gloss. This would make a new surface with decal and kit looking
as one. Is gloping pigmented prints like this ?



--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@...> wrote:
>
> Hello Jason;
> 
> We have been expwerimenting with glop a bit here and there, but I 
> don't think anyone is using it on dye inks. I in fact ran a test 
> print using MIS R800 glop, Epson premium glossy and dyes a while 
> back, and it seemed to hurt the print longevity substantially- I got 
> fade and magenta shift in a matter of a few days in my 'south 
> window' test.
> 
> I understand, however, that some people are using the MIS Pro pigs 
> in R200 printers with good results, and many are doing B&W with 
> grayscale pigs of one brand or another, so the printers are capable 
> of using pigments. I know the gamut isn't the same, but it has 
> improved a lot, and with a luster/semigloss paper the ink doesn't 
> look so much like its just sitting on the surface; you might 
> consider going that route for anything you don't want to replace a 
> few years from now.
> 
> Steve Karafyllakis
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "jason shanks" 
> <prissweb@> wrote:
> >
> > Hello guys , I just wanted to first say " hello " to the group. 
> This
> > is my first post here and I heard about this place from a nice
> > gentleman on the dpreview forums . When I brought up the topic of 
> > using a printer to coat a print with a gloss or matt coating he
> > informed me that people in this group had been using that method 
> for
> > years and that it indeed did work. And I will say , I'm thankful 
> for
> > the experience newbie's like me can learn from ,  due to your hard 
> work.
> > 
> > This brings me to my question. Will gloss coating using WJ824 on a 
> dye
> > based print improve the fading ? I really hope so , because I love 
> how
> > dye based inks look. That and I don't have any money for an
> > r800-r2400.  I have two r320's and blank refillable cartridges for
> > both units. I tried spraying prints with coats but I didn't like 
> the
> > smells and the printer yields much more even results. These dye 
> prints
> > will be for family photo albums and some for hanging. And if I 
> can ,
> > selling my 8x10's on eBay. I use Epson premium glossy.
> > 
> > Has anyone got good , lasting results .. at least better then 
> normal
> > Epson dye prints . Using glop coating ? using multiple coats of 
> glop
> > is no issue for me. I have tons of the stuff.
> >
>