Digital BW, The Print

Hi Carl,

I've been following this thread with great interest, and your 
comments about using the MIS K4 on an Epson 4000 led me to the 
question: do you, or anyone else, know whether is it possible to use 
them (without the LLK, as in the 4000) on a 7600, and if yes, do 
these inks give less bronzing and GD on glossy photo papers (not only 
Silver Rag and Innova F-Type but also Epson's Premium Luster and 
Premium Semimatte) than the original Ultrachromes? Would the MIS Pro 
inkset give similar results?

I'm looking for a solution to the problem of printing both color and 
B&W on a photo school environment: we have a 7600 in our student's 
lab, but we can't dedicate it to b&W only. I've been testing using 
QTR to print on these Epson papers: while the print quality is very 
good, the bronzing is evident, and it is not feasible for us to 
switch back and forth between photo and matte black, so we've 
standardized on UC PK black and Epson Photo papers (also, it isn't 
very easy to get other matte, fine art papers here in Brazil). 
Although I know that getting a newer x800 series printer would be 
best, this isn't likely to happen on the near future, due to budget 
restrictions here.

Also, are there any issues we should worry about using MIS (Pro or 
K4) inks on a 7600 regarding clogging, etc? The much lower cost of 
these inks also make them an extremely attractive alternative for us.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions,

Paulo Baptista
Escola de Belas Artes
Universidade Federalde Minas Gerais
Brazil
www.eba.ufmg.br


At 16:16 4/7/2006, you wrote:

>See my message below to Walt. K4 does have lower gloss.
>
>Walt,
>
>I'm using the MIS K4 (both in a 2400 and in a 4000, without the LLK 
>in the latter) and CSR
>does exhibit slight bronzing and GD with both printers. As John 
>noted a light coat of
>Printshield will eliminate this problem. The nozzle check patches 
>exaggerate the bronzing
>and GD. I've also made comparisons using Hahnemuhle FA Pearl and 
>Innova F Type. The
>H pearl surface looks almost the same as the CSR (but on a whiter 
>paper base) and it also
>has about the same level of bronzing and GD. Innova F Type has a 
>slightly glossier
>surface, but exhibits essentially no bronzing or GD and unlike the 
>other two papers it does
>not require Printshield treatment. Except for the surface 
>imperfections, the Innova F Type
>looks most like my air dried silver prints. Recent discussions 
>indicate that there are
>batches with a smoother surface. Mine was in the boxes with the blue 
>label. Note that all
>of these comments are specific to MIS K4 inks which tend to produce 
>a slightly lower gloss
>compared to Epson K3.
>
>Carl