Digital BW, The Print

Hi Chris;

I still like the paper too; now that I finally have a densitometer 
I'll put some pieces out for a fade test. Frankly, I hadn't 
considered that the yellowing might stop, but if it is being caused 
by OBAs burning off, its possible. 

Steve Karafyllakis

http://www.stevekphoto.com

--- In 
DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "tzinzunzan2006" 
<tzinzunzan2006@...> wrote:
>
> A few weeks ago I received a sample roll of Sihl Iridium Satin. 
I've
> been very impressed with the surface -- just enough gloss to 
enhance
> the image without distracting reflections, and the the same goes 
for
> its texture. I'd like to continue using the paper, so what you 
report
> concerns me. However, 1) if the the yellowing is only noticeable
> through comparison with "fresh" sheets, 2) it stops yellowing at 
that
> point, and 3)there is no significant/noticeable fading, then this
> paper may be good for my purposes. After all, doesn't traditional
> fiber paper with OBAs yellow to some extent also? At any rate, 
thanks
> for the information. I look forward to reading any fade test 
results.
> 
> Chris Hargens
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Steven
> Karafyllakis" <stevekphoto@> wrote:
> >
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > Some may remember a few months back I expressed interest in a 
paper 
> > called Sihl Iridium Satin. It is very nice material for an RC 
paper, 
> > but the biggest drawback (until now) was unavailabilty in 
sheets. 
> > That discouraged any real interest by list members, and its just 
as 
> > well. I finally got around to doing an informal south-window 
> > yellowing test, and the results were not good. But I put up some 
> > other papers that have also been mentioned on this forum lately, 
and 
> > one that hasn't, and I can at least suggest a viable new 
candidate 
> > for those needing a luster/satin RC paper for commercial 
printing.
> > 
> > The papers I put up were: Sihl Iridium satin, Magiclee Lustre 
> > Photobase, Inkpress RC Lustre, Ilford Soft Gloss (yeah I know, 
it's 
> > glossy not lustre) and Oriental Graphica lustre RC. As control 
and 
> > comparison I also put up Photo rag, William Turner, and Epson 
> > enhanced matte. The enhanced Matte went up 3 days after the 
rest, it 
> > was a bit of an afterthought.
> > 
> > I left them up for only 12 days before I checked them, and after 
> > that short a period this is what I saw:
> > 
> > The enhanced matte (after only 9 days!) yelloewd the most, 
enough 
> > that no control print comparison was needed to see the shift. No 
> > surprise there.
> > 
> > Next in order of visible change was the Magiclee Photobase, Sihl 
> > Iridium, and the Inkpress Lustre. The Oriental Graphica survived 
the 
> > best of the lustre papers, on a par with the Ilford Soft gloss. 
> > There may be a measurable yellow shift in those two, but since I 
> > don't have a spectro, I can't verify.
> > 
> > There was no visible shift in either the Photo Rag or the Willie 
> > Turner.
> > 
> > 
> > That's the bad news. The good new is that the Oriental Graphica 
is a 
> > fairly attractive paper (for an RC) prints well in color, takes 
the 
> > K3 & K4 inks well (but not the older UC inks) has good Dmax 
(anyone 
> > care to measure it for the group?) and is available in both 
rolls 
> > and sheets up to 13 x 19. Guess I'll give it a whirl.
> > 
> > Steve Karafyllakis
> >
>