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Re: [Digital BW] fibaprint gloss/ da vinci users

2006-07-09 by Carl Schofield

Recently, my email responses seem to take anywhere from 8 to 24 hrs to appear so I'm 
trying this via website to see if posting is any quicker.  This is just a cut and paste of 
message sent this AM.
	
From: 	  scho@...
	Subject: 	Re: [Digital BW] fibaprint gloss/ da vinci users
	Date: 	July 9, 2006 9:39:26 AM EDT
	To: 	  DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com

MIS K4 PK does seem to give me slightly lower dmax compared to Epson K3 PK.  I get 
about 2.1 to 2.2 for Innova F Type in both my 2400 and 4000.  Silver Rag and Hahnemuhle 
Pearl do better with dmax closer to 2.3 - 2.4.

Carl

On Jul 9, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Shilesh Jani wrote:

Using Epson 4000 loaded with K3 (4800) PK ink, QTR 1440
Super/Better/Ordered I am getting 2.5 when measured with Heiland PM
Densitometer. This is NOT a colorimeter.

From experience I know this will dry-down to ~2.4+ overnight. A light
coat of PrintShield usually bring this up to 2.6+

I am getting the same results +/- 0.05D with the K3 PK in 2400
printer.

Dmax usually comes in at 75% or 80% ink limits.

Ernst, maybe it is the MIS PK ink?

Shilesh

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
<E.Dinkla@...> wrote:

Greg wrote:

I looked into the dmax numbers a little, and I thik I have a
vague
idea of why they are getting such low numbers. It might (stress
might) be simply a difference between the measurement mode being
used. Most of us are using Status T for density, yet the Xrite
810
says it uses Status A (reflection and still has a 2.5D spec),
while
they may be using Status E measurements to reach the 2.7D. I saw
a
fleeting reference to the difference between Status T and Status
E
being that the E value may be lower. I haven't had the time to go
and
research it yet, so if someone knows what the differences are, or
has
the time to go looking, there might be an answer.

Greg,

I'm busy calibrating Fibaprint Gloss F with a Spectrocam and
do not get a higher Dmax than 1.94 with MIS UT PK on an Epson
9000. I do not see much difference between the Status T, A or
E with this spectrometer. And the lowest L  is 11.80. With QTR
I have to limit on 60 in the calibration strip as there's no D
gain above that. Boosting doesn't help either. I have used the
Premium Glossy Photo Paper setting in QTR but do not expect
any difference with other settings and 1440 unidirectional.

Any suggestions to get a higher Dmax ?

Ernst

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