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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo/MIS-FS/MIS-VM: which inks can substitute each other

2002-01-16 by tomoc

Paul-

I was looking for a "warm, warmer, warmest" relationship... With the 
speed of the piezo driver... Just wishing the ball in the hole, I 
guess.

I'm looking forward to the sepia/neutral VM. I used to say I like 
cool prints... After using your set, I see that I really only mean 
neutral. While the use for sepia is only ocassional, it is far more 
likely to be used than the truly COLD <g>.

You're our hero... 

Tom O'Connell

TomOC@...
www.thomasoconnell.com


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" 
<paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> Tom,
> 
> You wrote:
> 
> >Are the relationships between the midtones in all three inksets
> >fairly linearly different?
> 
> I'm not sure what you mean here.
> 
> > I would sound like the VM inkset on a
> >piezo driver might get one well down the road to a sepia print?
> 
> The Piezo driver does not distribut the toner ink in an even or 
appropriate
> manner.  Use only MIS FS or Piezo inks with the Piezo driver.
> 
> The MIS VM-Sepia-Neutral (I have no idea what MIS will call it) 
should see
> daylight soon.  I expect the FS-N will also be done soon.  (I'm 
still
> working on getting an exact match to my lightly-selenium-toned, 
Kodak
> Polymax Fine Art silver prints -- using the X-Rite 
photospectrometer to do
> the measurements.)
> 
> Paul
> http://www.PaulRoark.com
> 
> ____________________
> 
> 
> 
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@v...> wrote:
> > Bernd,
> >
> > You wrote:
> >
> > >Switching from one inkset to another often leaves a lot of
> > >"unusable" ink behind. For example, I've been running out of the
> > >Piezo yellow-substitute on my 1160, while my black and cyan
> > >stays more than half full and magenta has a reasonable rest too.
> > >...I do not want to buy Piezo
> > >inks again  so must I pour out  the Piezo-rest into the sink or 
can
> > >I use it with any of the other inksets ?
> >
> > >Which inks of the different sets can substitute each other...
> >
> > MIS VM K = MIS FS K = (for practical purposes) Piezo K
> >
> > The mid-tone inks are all different.  MIS VM grays are the 
warmest,
> Piezo
> > next warmest, and FS midtones the least warm -- but still medium
> warm.
> >
> > While the mid-tone inks are different, they are compatible and the
> densities
> > of certain of the inks are the same.
> >
> > MIS VM cyan density = (within 1%) MIS FS cyan density = Piezo cyan
> density.
> >
> > MIS FS magenta-position density = Piezo magenta density.
> >
> > MIS FS yellow-position density = Piezo yellow density.
> >
> >
> > I don't know what success one would have mixing inks in a CIS.  I
> suspect it
> > would work fine, but no guarantees.  Since the option is to throw
> out the
> > CIS, there is not much lost in trying it.  You might start by
> adding small
> > amounts of the new ink and mixing the inks in the bottle first.
> This might
> > spread out the color differentials to the point you'll never see
> them.
> >
> > Paul
> > http://www.PaulRoark.com

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