Paul- I was looking for a "warm, warmer, warmest" relationship... With the speed of the piezo driver... Just wishing the ball in the hole, I guess. I'm looking forward to the sepia/neutral VM. I used to say I like cool prints... After using your set, I see that I really only mean neutral. While the use for sepia is only ocassional, it is far more likely to be used than the truly COLD <g>. You're our hero... Tom O'Connell TomOC@... www.thomasoconnell.com --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > Tom, > > You wrote: > > >Are the relationships between the midtones in all three inksets > >fairly linearly different? > > I'm not sure what you mean here. > > > I would sound like the VM inkset on a > >piezo driver might get one well down the road to a sepia print? > > The Piezo driver does not distribut the toner ink in an even or appropriate > manner. Use only MIS FS or Piezo inks with the Piezo driver. > > The MIS VM-Sepia-Neutral (I have no idea what MIS will call it) should see > daylight soon. I expect the FS-N will also be done soon. (I'm still > working on getting an exact match to my lightly-selenium-toned, Kodak > Polymax Fine Art silver prints -- using the X-Rite photospectrometer to do > the measurements.) > > Paul > http://www.PaulRoark.com > > ____________________ > > > > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., "Paul Roark" > <paul.roark@v...> wrote: > > Bernd, > > > > You wrote: > > > > >Switching from one inkset to another often leaves a lot of > > >"unusable" ink behind. For example, I've been running out of the > > >Piezo yellow-substitute on my 1160, while my black and cyan > > >stays more than half full and magenta has a reasonable rest too. > > >...I do not want to buy Piezo > > >inks again so must I pour out the Piezo-rest into the sink or can > > >I use it with any of the other inksets ? > > > > >Which inks of the different sets can substitute each other... > > > > MIS VM K = MIS FS K = (for practical purposes) Piezo K > > > > The mid-tone inks are all different. MIS VM grays are the warmest, > Piezo > > next warmest, and FS midtones the least warm -- but still medium > warm. > > > > While the mid-tone inks are different, they are compatible and the > densities > > of certain of the inks are the same. > > > > MIS VM cyan density = (within 1%) MIS FS cyan density = Piezo cyan > density. > > > > MIS FS magenta-position density = Piezo magenta density. > > > > MIS FS yellow-position density = Piezo yellow density. > > > > > > I don't know what success one would have mixing inks in a CIS. I > suspect it > > would work fine, but no guarantees. Since the option is to throw > out the > > CIS, there is not much lost in trying it. You might start by > adding small > > amounts of the new ink and mixing the inks in the bottle first. > This might > > spread out the color differentials to the point you'll never see > them. > > > > Paul > > http://www.PaulRoark.com
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Re: [Digital BW] Piezo/MIS-FS/MIS-VM: which inks can substitute each other
2002-01-16 by tomoc
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