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K3 Ink in a 4000/Question for Shilesh Jani

2006-07-10 by Stephen M Martin

Did I read correctly that you are using the K3 ink in a 4000? May I ask how? Thanks. 
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: Carl Schofield 
  To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
  Sent: Sunday, July 09, 2006 9:39 AM
  Subject: Re: [Digital BW] fibaprint gloss/ da vinci users


  MIS K4 PK does seem to give me slightly lower dmax compared to Epson 
  K3 PK. I get about 2.1 to 2.2 for Innova F Type in both my 2400 and 
  4000. Silver Rag and Hahnemuhle Pearl do better with dmax closer to 
  2.3 - 2.4.

  Carl

  On Jul 9, 2006, at 9:21 AM, Shilesh Jani wrote:

  > Using Epson 4000 loaded with K3 (4800) PK ink, QTR 1440
  > Super/Better/Ordered I am getting 2.5 when measured with Heiland PM
  > Densitometer. This is NOT a colorimeter.
  >
  > From experience I know this will dry-down to ~2.4+ overnight. A light
  > coat of PrintShield usually bring this up to 2.6+
  >
  > I am getting the same results +/- 0.05D with the K3 PK in 2400
  > printer.
  >
  > Dmax usually comes in at 75% or 80% ink limits.
  >
  > Ernst, maybe it is the MIS PK ink?
  >
  > Shilesh
  >
  > --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Ernst Dinkla
  > <E.Dinkla@...> wrote:
  >>
  >> Greg wrote:
  >>
  >>> I looked into the dmax numbers a little, and I thik I have a
  > vague
  >>> idea of why they are getting such low numbers. It might (stress
  >>> might) be simply a difference between the measurement mode being
  >>> used. Most of us are using Status T for density, yet the Xrite
  > 810
  >>> says it uses Status A (reflection and still has a 2.5D spec),
  > while
  >>> they may be using Status E measurements to reach the 2.7D. I saw
  > a
  >>> fleeting reference to the difference between Status T and Status
  > E
  >>> being that the E value may be lower. I haven't had the time to go
  > and
  >>> research it yet, so if someone knows what the differences are, or
  > has
  >>> the time to go looking, there might be an answer.
  >>
  >> Greg,
  >>
  >> I'm busy calibrating Fibaprint Gloss F with a Spectrocam and
  >> do not get a higher Dmax than 1.94 with MIS UT PK on an Epson
  >> 9000. I do not see much difference between the Status T, A or
  >> E with this spectrometer. And the lowest L is 11.80. With QTR
  >> I have to limit on 60 in the calibration strip as there's no D
  >> gain above that. Boosting doesn't help either. I have used the
  >> Premium Glossy Photo Paper setting in QTR but do not expect
  >> any difference with other settings and 1440 unidirectional.
  >>
  >> Any suggestions to get a higher Dmax ?
  >>
  >> Ernst
  >>
  >> -- 
  >>
  >> --
  >> Ernst Dinkla
  >>
  >>
  >> www.pigment-print.com
  >> ( unvollendet )
  >>



   

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