Digital BW, The Print

K3 4800 Profiles? I am afraid not.

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen M 
Martin" <steve@...> wrote:
>
> Sorry, I think I asked the question vaguely. Could I use the K3 
profiles? 
>   ----- Original Message ----- 
>   From: Shilesh Jani 
>   To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
>   Sent: Thursday, July 13, 2006 12:19 PM
>   Subject: Re: [Digital BW] K3 Inks In 4000 - How?
> 
> 
>   Existing IP profiles for 4000 - No. 
> 
>   They would have to write you new ones.
> 
>   --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Stephen M 
>   Martin" <steve@> wrote:
>   >
>   > Thanks very much for your explanation but I do have one more 
>   question which I think should be just a yes or no. I am 
presently 
>   using Image Print. Can I use their profiles since making my own 
>   would require that I learn how first?
>   > 
>   > Thank you very much for taking the time to write such a 
detailed 
>   response. I will certainly make use of it. 
>   > ----- Original Message ----- 
>   > From: Shilesh Jani 
>   > To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com 
>   > Sent: Wednesday, July 12, 2006 10:26 PM
>   > Subject: [Digital BW] K3 Inks In 4000 - How?
>   > 
>   > 
>   > Steven Martin asked this question. The thread got a little 
off, 
>   so I 
>   > start this new one.
>   > 
>   > First, the 4800 carts will NOT fit into the 4000. The innards, 
>   however, 
>   > are the same. There is a bladder full of ink in each cart, 
with 
>   a spout 
>   > that mates to the printer intake. Another important note: The 
>   4000, 
>   > 7600, 9600 printers share the exact same ink carts. The 4800 
and 
>   7800 
>   > (and 9800) don't. So make sure you get the 4800 carts.
>   > 
>   > All you have to do is take the full bladders out of 4800 carts 
>   and put 
>   > them into the corresponding spent 4000 carts. Then you reset 
the 
>   chips 
>   > on the 4000 carts and load your printer.
>   > 
>   > It is rather easy to do. I urge you to first open up a spent 
>   4000 
>   > catridge to familiarize yourself with the innards. The plastic 
>   casing 
>   > is a 2-piece design that snaps together. It is not welded or 
>   otherwise 
>   > sealed. The label goes across the seam. Take a razor or very 
>   sharp 
>   > knife and slit the label along the seam - careful not to cut 
>   yourself. 
>   > Place the cart flat, label side up. Then take a small flat 
head 
>   screw 
>   > driver and pry open the carts at the four tab recesses. With 
>   some 
>   > patience the cart will come apart. Once open, you will notice 
>   how truly 
>   > simple the procedure is. 
>   > 
>   > Open up a 4000 cart and the corrsponding 4800 cart and lay 
them 
>   side-by-
>   > side. With the 220 ml inks, you will have to gently lift off 
the 
>   > bladders which are attached to the cart with double sided 
tape. 
>   Swap 
>   > the blladers and place them in identical positions as before. 
>   Like I 
>   > said, it is easier than I have the capacity to explain. Snap 
the 
>   lid 
>   > back on, and that is it. You don't have to tape it it shut. 
>   Reset the 
>   > cart with a chip resetter, and you are done.
>   > 
>   > I would recommend you do all inks at the same time (not the 
MK, 
>   which 
>   > is the same for 4000 and 4800 printers). You will waste a lot 
of 
>   ink 
>   > the first time around so be sure to have a spare maintenance 
>   tank. Do 2 
>   > power cleaning cycles, which should replenish all ink.
>   > 
>   > You will have to redo ALL of your color profiles, and ALL of 
>   your b/w 
>   > Profiles too (QTR, or other RIP). So be prepared for some hard 
>   work. Is 
>   > it worth it? You will get much better Dmax on papers that you 
>   use PK. 
>   > For instance, on Epson Premium Luster you will go from 
>   approximately 
>   > 2.0 to greater than 2.4 plus. That is a big, clearly visible 
>   jump. You 
>   > will see less bronzing and gloss differential, but not as low 
as 
>   the 
>   > real 4800 prints, because you are not loading the LLK ink. In 
>   full 
>   > color printing using the Epson driver, you will need to bump 
up 
>   the ink 
>   > density to 20% to see the 2.4 Dmax. I have done very little 
>   color 
>   > printing, so be cautioned that this may not be ideal. For b/w, 
>   however, 
>   > I am making the best high Dmax prints I have ever made; they 
are 
>   rich, 
>   > lucious and under controlled gallery type lighting, they can 
be 
>   breath 
>   > taking. On Fiba F Glossy I am routinely nailing down Dmax of 
2.6 
>   after 
>   > a light coat of print shield. I must say, for uncontrolled 
>   lighting 
>   > (typical home and office)framed prints made on William Turner 
>   190 gsm 
>   > with MK absolutely ROCK & RULE in my opinion.
>   > 
>   > Good luck.
>   > 
>   > Shilesh
>   > 
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