Daniela, I believe 4 shades are a safe bet, 3 may be problematic, and 5 may be overkill. It is important to note this depends on many variables; among them (1) printer droplet size, (2) printer driver (or RIP) which controls the dither, (3) relationship in color between the paper and the ink, and (5) viewer's visual acuity. The modern Epson UC and K3 printer (and the older 1270, 1280 too) drivers have a the capacity of very smooth prints, probably because of some proprietary dither algorithms. In comparison, the "Ordered" dither commonly used in QTR produces coarser prints, and therefore require more shades of gray. Try printing black only with QTR and compare with BO using Epson driver and you will see what I mean. I am in the process of profiling right now, using the MIS UTFS (pure carbon) inks on a 2400 printer, using QTR. I have made custom dilution of the inks to increase the shades from the nominal 4 to 6 shades. The papers I am profiling are Hahnemuhle William Turner and German Etching, both fairly warm tone papers. These papers are a wonderful color match to the pure carbon inks, and I must say that I see no visual reason to go beyond 3 shades when using 2880 dpi, "better" options in QTR. For example at 60% ink limits, I start seeing the K (black) dots quite readily at 60% patch, which gets progressively worse at lower patches (brighter). The C (dark gray) dots become visible at the 55% patch. The M (medium gray) dots are virtually invisible even in the 5% patch. So, for this combination of printer, paper, ink, QTR at 2880 dpi, 3 shades are essential AND sufficient. My visual acuity (when I take my glasses off) is probably the equivalent of a 3X loupe; I focus on a 4x5 camera ground-glass without any aid. Another note: If you are using QTR on the original UC (2200, 4000, etc) printers, you will (or at least I do) see dots when printing with "warm" curves, which use just 2 inks (K and LK). But curves such as "cool" or "cool-selenium" additonally use LC and LM inks, and the dottiness is definitely lower. I hope this helps. Best regards and good luck. Shilesh --- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "dgattarino" <dgattarino@...> wrote: > > Thanks from the few of you who answerd my question. > However, none of the replies mentioned the reason for the number they > quote as the minimum number black inks for fine art B&W. > I made a couple of considerations in the meantime: > 1) The gray shades where the print start to look poor ar the lightest. > That's where the dots from the print start to become visible. > I have never seen such dots in the mid or dark tones > 2) From a recent post from Clayton Jones > (http://groups.yahoo.com/group/DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint/messages/7 8918?threaded=1&m=e&var=1&tidx=1) > it appears that the gray ink used by far the most is LLK. This means > that LLK has to cover a larger range of tones by itself, when compared > with the other gray inks. Therefore, it might need some "help" from > another gray shade. > > The above considerations would suggest that the minimum number of gray > shade for best results is, infact, 4 with a LLLK supplementing Epson's > LLK in the highlights. > > I would like to know what you think about the above. > Thanks. Cheers, > Daniela >
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Re: [Digital BW] FIne Art B&W and number of black inks
2006-08-13 by Shilesh Jani
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