Digital BW, The Print

I also have found the MIS FSN inks now to be useless.

From my post of June 3, 2006:

Epson 4000, FSN C, M, Y on the left side, FS C, M, Y
on the right side (in the LC, LM, LK positions), Eboni
Black. Using QTR. Hahnemuehle Photo Rag 308.

QTR ink separation page printed at 100%.
Eye One spectro.
100% densities read:

Eboni 1.71
FSN-C 1.24 Lab a=-0.5 b=-0.2
FSN-M  .53 Lab a=0.3 b=-6.7
FSN-Y  .36 Lab a=0.2 b=-4.4
FS-C  1.31
FS-M   .49
FS-Y   .36

I've used FSN and FS on this machine before with no
problem. What seems wrong is:

The FSN-M and Y seem too blue (note high negative b
numbers) while the FSN-C is close to neutral.

The dark grays for both FSN and FS should be darker
(density around 1.5?). Also for both FSN and FS it
seems there should be more of a density difference
between the light grays and middle grays (M and Y).

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I contacted MIS after having sent them samples of the
ink. They told me everything was normal. My main
concern here was the visible (and measured) blueness
of the M and Y inks in the FSN.

-John

--- Daniel Staver <daniel@...> wrote:

> I have the same experience with the FSN inks I
> bought for my 3000 printer.
> The C is greenish, the M is purplish and has almost
> the same density as Y,
> and Y is also too purplish, but much closer to
> neutral than M. Basically the
> inkset as I received it is useless. I've told MIS
> about it, and I'm
> returning them samples of the inks now so they can
> do some testing.
> 
> I have to agree with you, pure carbon inks seems
> like a better idea at this
> point.
> 
> --
> Daniel Staver
> http://daniel.staver.no
> 
> 
> > When UT-FSN was first released, I wanted to switch
> away from 
> > the original FSN I was using. With much
> trepidation, I made 
> > the switch to get better lightfast inkset. Alas, I
> found 
> > excatly the same thing; UT- FSN was definitely
> magenta heavy. 
> > The regular FSN was better at the cool end of
> neutral. I 
> > spoke to Bob at MIS, and he was adamant that
> UT-FSN and FSN 
> > should have similar color. I just gave up at that
> point.
> 
> 
> 


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