I don't think we are at the end of improvements in drivers.
Hardware is now close to ideal, the machines we dreamed about
five years ago. Drivers are not there yet, not in combining
flexibility, color control and ease of use. I doubt that many
printshops take the time to pinpoint their B&W results like
some of the members on this list do so there's some margin
left for quality that isn't in the subjective area like
photographer's intent. I have some ideas about what could be
improved on the driver side of B&W printing that isn't found
in OEM B&W drivers, the RIPs or David Tobie's approach right
now. While the OEM drivers lack the precision, the other
approaches lack the flexibility in use. Next week is Photokina
though so I could be surprised.
David's idea of using the RGB color management and add real
B&W profiling to it is the right road. I have asked for
something like that on the Colorsync list maybe 3 years ago
and repeated that question when the first K3 printers came
along. I thought that an extra B&W rendering on normal color
ICC profiles could be a solution and I still think that that
isn't a bad idea. Limits the amount of profiles a lot that
way. The problem with profile creation for B&W solutions will
be in the profile management and flexible use of the profiles.
I am almost at the end of a cycle of QTR profile creations
that had to do with canvas printing. While I had uncoated
canvas ready, 3 linearisations + profiles: carbon, cool, warm,
I had to add varnish mat and now varnish gloss. That still
doesn't cover profiles for the slider steps in between say
50/50 on QTR's choices. And this is only one canvas quality.
At least the QTR sliders give you some flexibility in printing
but only on one axis and softproofing remains fixed with just
two or three profiles along the way. I think David's solution
isn't better on this aspect. It would be better if a B&W
profile plug-in on Photoshop gave the ability to balance the
print result and the corresponding soft proof between say 3
profiles made so you get a gliding scale on several axis in
that system but still profiled.
QTR is very density based in its applications and that will
become a bottleneck with the new NgreyNcolor printers. With
fixed grey inksets: 4,5,6,7K neutral, cool, warm, it is
fulfilling most needs but it will not take care of paper
white compensation. But at least the consistency of the hue
and saturation is baked in the ink already. With normal color,
quad toners and NgreyNcolor printers you will always need a
manual control of saturation and hue in curves to get
consistency in color tone along the greyscale. I think QTR
will need a color engine one way or another to get this
solved. On top of that the same plug-in for Photoshop that I
suggested for David's solution. Either that or a stand alone
program that has an interface like Epson's ABW but with some
exact profiling beacons to navigate between.
David's approach doesn't solve the linearising of odd inksets,
some third party papers, individual printers. He is right that
OEM drivers should have some extra paper settings that are not
fixed on the manufacturer's supply of papers. (last time that
happened is I think on the 10000 printer driver that I have).
David's approach still is an "RGB" profiling solution. Used
with QTR part of the linearising can be filled in but with the
QTR color control limitations I sketched before. At least it
gives you the best Dmax possible on that paper (with or
without mat or gloss varnish :-) + the perceptual grey tone
separation along the ramp.
So I don't think we are in B&W driver Nirvana yet. Simply
adding dedicated profiles for every B&W hue tone possible
isn't a flexible solution. For the NgreyNcolor printers now
introduced on a wider scale and in my opinion the best
solution for the printshop we will need more advanced B&W
color management but with flexibility and ease of use like
sketched above. ICC profile management will still be needed
too. Love to see B&W profiling added as a rendering to ICC
color profiles. For that you need a five to ten year lobby at
the higher color management institutes. It would be a shame
all that doesn't run on Qimage :-) And before I forget it
make a QTR based Windows driver that communicates through
Windows API with Qimage.
I doubt when that is done there's only photographer's intent
we can compete on for the best B&W Print. What did we see in
analogue B&W printing after Adams made the first good analogue
B&W prints: new films, new papers, archival development,
multi-grade paper and enlargers, etc etc. Right now the best
analogue prints are made, with and without the right
photographer's intent, it will not be different with digital
prints even when B&W digital prints are replaced for 90% by
B&W flatscreens on the wall.
Ernst
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Re: [Digital BW] What Makes a Good Digital B&W Print???
2006-09-24 by Ernst Dinkla
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