Digital BW, The Print

I haven't used Lightroom before but I just downloaded it to try.
Unfortunately I've also run into quite a few weird occurances.

Since Lightroom does not appear to support grayscale, you are probably right
to try the RGB version of the QTR profiles.  I received both the "invalid" error and
also quite a few complete crashes of the whole program.  I also decided to see
what would happen with an ordinary Epson RGB profile - not that the results would
be any good.   But it crashed as well.  So I suspect it's because of some grayscale
issue rather than the profile.   The crashes are all in the OS X Print Manager so
help from Apple and/or Adobe will probably be needed.

I've played with various combinations and I think I've found a workaround for
custom made QTR ICC profiles.  It doesn't work with the generic QTR-RGB Matte Paper.

Here's what I did:
1) Make your custom ICC using the RGB version as before.
2) In Lightroom, select the Epson driver as the printer.  Setup the ICC profile in
the Color Management section.  Hit Print.
3) Instead of printing in the Print Dialog, hit Preview.   This will output a pdf file to the
Preview program.
4) Now you can print from Preview, select the Quad printer and all the options you
want and print.  

The idea is Lightroom applies the RGB profile as normally, and Preview handles the
conversion to grayscale.

Roy

--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Douglas, Keith" <kdouglas@...> 
wrote:
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> I haven't tried rebooting.  I'll give it a try.  It is beta afterall.
> I'll also post on the Adobe site.
> Thanks,
> Keith
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> From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Eric
> Neilsen Photo 
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:14 PM
> To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] QTR ICC Profiles and Lightroom
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> Have you posted your quandary to the Adobe LAB site for Beta 4 feed
> back?
> Sorry I missed your more complete question. Did you try a reboot after
> the
> attempt with Lightroom? I had it do a strange lock up with a convert and
> then open in CS. They may have a bug in there. I'll see if I can repeat
> your
> try. It will be tomorrow before I get that done.
> 
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> <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of
> Douglas,
> Keith
> Sent: Tuesday, September 26, 2006 2:55 PM
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> Subject: RE: [Digital BW] QTR ICC Profiles and Lightroom
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> Eric,
> 
> Yes, that doesn't work. Windows also says "invalid profile". But if I
> manually copy the ICC's to the windows profiles directory
> (c:\windows\system32\spool\drivers\color), photoshop sees the profiles
> and will print correctly with them. 
> 
> -Keith
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