Yes, I should have been more specific that for a given print tone, less cyan and magenta (light versions) will be used. The coordinates will change, and the small sample image showing the tone will not be very useful to judge the print tone. I might add that with MIS EZ-W in the yellow spot the warm side of the ABW range is restricted. MIS LK and LLK help relative to the Epson versions. But, you can print pure carbon only with an RGB approach, using a curve that makes the print yellow on the monitor. On Premier Art I am not able to get a warm print out of the 2400 Y=EZW approach with the ABW mode. While an RGB approach can take care of this problem, this approach is less than ideal due to the yellow (now carbon) channel not having 2 midtone inks. However, using a 1600 dpi RGB scan and the Photoshop Histograms Standard Deviation as a measure, it might still be smoother than the ABW mode. Whether this is true visually is questionable, but it looks very good. See http://home1.gte.net/res0a2zt/2400_RGB_Y=EZW.jpg It may be that a rip will be the preferred approach for the 2400 and B&W purists who want the most lightfast and smooth prints possible but still want the full color. Paul www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/> _____ From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Manuel Toledo Quinones Sent: Monday, October 09, 2006 12:36 PM To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com Subject: Re: [Digital BW] R2400 MIS EZW-4Y ink in Yellow Position I believe the idea is that, as Paul explains in his message, the assumption is that you, the user, will modify the ABW parameters when using the EZW cardridge. Since you are using the EZW-4Y instead of yellow, your new parameter set will use less Cyan and Magenta because there is less yellow to correct for. --- In DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, Steve Kale <stevekale@...> wrote: > > I think the point was that the Epson driver doesn¹t know the yellow has been > replaced and so continues to pump out cyan and magenta. Or am I missing > something? > > > > From: Paul Roark <paul.roark@...> > Reply-To: <DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Date: Sun, 08 Oct 2006 13:56:52 -0700 > To: <DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com> > Subject: RE: [Digital BW] R2400 MIS EZW-4Y ink in Yellow Position > > > > > > Manuel, > > The MIS perhaps should have been explicit that for a given print tone less > cyan and magenta pigments are used. When there is yellow in the mix, that > yellow has to be offset with cyan and magenta to be neutral. > > Paul > > www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroar <http://www.paulroark.com/> k.com/> > > _____ > > From: DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> > [mailto:DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> ] On Behalf Of > Manuel > Toledo Quinones > Sent: Sunday, October 08, 2006 10:19 AM > To: DigitalBlackandWhit <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> eThePrint@yahoogroups.com > <mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com> > Subject: Re: [Digital BW] R2400 MIS EZW-4Y ink in Yellow Position > > Paul, > > Regarding the use of MIS EZ Warm cartridge in the R2400 yellow > position, MIS website says that > > "This eliminates all the Epson yellow ink from the print and reduces > the use of cyan and magenta as well. The prints look even better with > this set up, plus the fade resistance is extended out way beyond the > Epson inks." > > If no new profle is used, why would the amount of Cyan & Mayenta be > reduced? > > Thanks, > > Manuel > > > > > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed] > [Non-text portions of this message have been removed]
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RE: [Digital BW] R2400 MIS EZW-4Y ink in Yellow Position
2006-10-09 by Paul Roark
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