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[Digital BW] Re: Interesting new papers- Eclipse, Epson FA

2001-08-16 by mwesley250@earthlink.net

Antonis,

As far as the Eclipse Velvet 350 gsm goes, I can confirm what Steve 
says below about the Piezo. Using an image and profile that works 
well on Torchon or Legion Photo Matte the Eclipse Velvet print is 
very washed out with weak blacks. I also have the Eclipse Satine 190 
gsm and it prints about the same.

This is incredibly disappointing because the papers are beautiful. 
Brightness between EAM and LPM. Just enough more texture than LPM to 
be appealing. The Satine is a tiny bit smoother than the Velvet. The 
print color is more neutral than LPM.

If you do something drastic like using a 200% Dot Density, you can 
get a black that comes very close to Torchon and LPM but in large 
expanses is a bit veiled looking. At this point the print has heavy 
posterizing. Using the "Unsupported" profile with a gamma of 0.90 and 
dropping the image brightness about 5% I felt I was moving towards 
something useable.

I think I will save what I have to try on with the MIS VT.

Martin


--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@y..., sdmey4@a... wrote:
> Antonios! The black I'am getting Using MIS  STANDARD hextones is 
comparable 
> to the Piezo blacks you would get on popular papers such as Orwell, 
Wells 
> River or EAM. 
> I was able to jam a sheet of this 350gsm paper in my Piezo 3000 
machine and I 
> was quite surprised. Your right! Piezo inks do not like this paper 
at all! It 
> made the worst looking black and white inkjet I've ever seen! Could 
be a 
> major profile mismatch but it wouldn't be worth the work to try and 
get it to 
> print better.
> As far as the Epson Fine Art smooth? The MIS blacks are very dense! 
as black 
> as any piezo black i've seen. I was unable to directly compare this 
paper 
> with Piezo as its way too thick to get in the printer! 425gsm 
19mil. This is 
> almost 2ply mat board.
> The bad news on the Eclipse paper is, it does not come in 17x22 or 
work with 
> Piezo so to make 16x20's I would have to go for the 24in rolls and 
its 
> limited to MIS inks or color work.
> Still a very nice sheet for MIS quad or hex inksets.
(snip)

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