Digital BW, The Print

Tom, 

 

I don't think the K3 inkset changes anything with respect to papers and
spraying.  Where I want better protection - which is for most final prints
that count - I still use Premier Art Print Shield for glossy papers and
Lascaux for most matte papers.  For the museum project I'm now involved with
I'm using Premier Art Print Shield for their 325 Hot Press matte paper.  The
extra UV protection is more important than a tiny loss in dmax for the old
photo reproductions.

 

Those new "glossy" papers like Crane Silver Rag are the most scuff resistant
papers I've seen, but they may be a bit stiff (and curled) for a book.

 

Good luck with the project.

 

Paul

www.PaulRoark.com <http://www.paulroark.com/>  

 

 

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From: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
[mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com] On Behalf Of Thomas
Keesling
Sent: Sunday, November 05, 2006 6:54 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: [Digital BW] Re: 4K+ B&W inkset for 2200 and other printers-Topkote
for books???

 

Helen, Paul and others,

I do mostly antique photo restoration, but got a call from a former
client who's wanting me to work with him to produce a few copies of a
~60-page book commemorating his deceased wife's art and crafts.

It would be color, of course and my R2400 could handle that. What
concerns me most is paper selection and the possible need to coat the
pages.

I know there've been discussions in the past regarding this topic
either here or on other boards, but I don't recall seeing such
discussions since all the new papers and K3 inks have come into the
market.

Do any of you have any experience producing books with the newer
papers/K3 inks? If so, did you overcoat the prints? And how have they
held up?

Any and all thoughts/suggestions are welcome.

Thanks

Thomas Keesling
Hoosier Recollections
Indianapolis

--- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Helen Bach"
<helenbach@...> wrote:
>
> --- In DigitalBlackandWhit
<mailto:DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint%40yahoogroups.com>
eThePrint@yahoogroups.com, "Paul Roark"
> <paul.roark@> wrote:
> >
> > I've loaded my 2200 with what I call the 4K+, non-blended B&W setup
> that I'm
> > using in my 7500. (See http://home1.
<http://home1.gte.net/res09aij/4K+.pdf> gte.net/res09aij/4K+.pdf) 
With 7
> > positions available, I have the 4 Ks (MK, PK, LK and LLK) plus
full - if
> > light - color: LC, LM, and Y. It appears to work very well. The
> approach
> > requires at least a B&W rip (QTR or IJC).
> 
> I've been using a similar system in one of my 2200s for over a year,
> and it does work very well. I use Epson inks from the 4000/4800 (MK)
> 4800 (PK, LK, LLK, LC) and R800 (blue, diluted to 20% of its original
> strength) with Krystal Topkote in the last position. I use IJC/OPM. 
> 
> I don't require anything warmer than the K3 inks themselves give,
> hence the use of the LC and LB as the only toners. The blue was chosen
> after experimenting with LM and R800 red. The R800 red worked well as
> a warming toner, but as I said, I don't require the warm tones so I
> removed it in favour of the Topkote.
> 
> I also use the Topkote for overcoating colour prints made on my colour
> 2200. I found that it worked best as as after coat rather than as a
> simultaneous coat with the K3 set - ie it improved DMax and shadow
> detail separation more as a second coat than if it was applied
> simultaneously. I apply the Topkote with the Epson driver in high
> speed using the Watercolor paper setting. The Topkote works better
> than the Epson glop in my R800 for overcoating UC and K3 inks.
> 
> I switched to the dilute blue after a few months of use - the
> full-strength blue sometimes gave a barely perceptible dottiness when
> used with light tones.
> 
> Overall I'm very pleased with the quality of the system.
> 
> As an aside, I'm now using a third 2200 with IJC/OPM to make negatives
> for silver gelatin printing using Canon red dye ink in various
> dilutions - the project I shelved to develop and refine the K3 B&W
> system described above.
> 
> Best,
> Helen
>

 



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