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RE: [Digital BW] B&W Print Off comments

2006-11-07 by Eric Neilsen Photo

David, And these are today's ( as of Saturday) Dmax. Will all of the black
have an equal fade? (shhhhh _ just a wee bit) . Perhaps, life in Taos, NM
and the southwest altered my view on this subject matter, but I saw many of
these prints as OVER the top in contrast. It is sand after all with a soft
light spilling all over the front of it. Heavy Color tint? Weak? These would
not be the words that I'd use to describe the differences; Appropriately
colored and Open. 

 

I suppose one might also get a much different take looking at the in a
daylight situation with mixed lighting which is a more normal viewing
condition than only tungsten light. 

 

Eric

 

 

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Sent: Tuesday, November 07, 2006 11:45 AM
To: DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com
Subject: Re: [Digital BW] B&W Print Off comments

 


In a message dated 11/7/06 11:25:38 AM, e.neilsen2@worldnet
<mailto:e.neilsen2%40worldnet.att.net> .att.net writes:

> 
> I am sure that we can all make gray scale ramps from our settings if that
> truly would mean something. However, as a silver printer for many years, I
> know that there are many ways to skin a cat, and file prep for printing
will
> vary as does negative creation and printing still do in the land of
silver.
> 

The way I see it is this: everyone was shocked by the level of variation of 
the different systems on a standard file, in the "A" prints. The adjusted
"B" 
prints were typically less dissimilar, as people had used image adjustments
to 
attempt to correct for system nonlinearity. This wasn't necessarily a
concious 
thing, but as you use a system, and learn how to get the best out of it, you

are working towards an optimal print. Eric's Piezo Sepia prints were nicely 
optimized... but for a system with a significantly lower d-max and a heavy
color 
tint, so that put them in a different range. They look great by themselves, 
but weak on a wall of prints with deeper blacks. Its like natural paper
looking 
white alone, but beige next to a whitened sheet.

So yes, I'd love to measure and plot a standard stepped grayramp from each
of 
these systems, it might not interest everyone, but it would very much 
interest me. If others are interested, I'll volunteeer as measurement geek,
and 
graphing geek, and will post the results. Let me know if there is interest
in this, 
and I'll post shipping and mailing addresses, and sent out a standard ramp 
file that I can measure.

C. David Tobie
Product Technology Manager
ColorVision Business Unit
Datacolor Inc.
CDTobie@colorvision <mailto:CDTobie%40colorvision.com> .com
www.colorvision.com

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