--- In DigitalBlackandWhiteThePrint@yahoogroups.com, CDTobie@... wrote: > We see in color, so color is obliged to be 'realistic' to a large > degree. We don't see in black and white With all due respect, I think these statements are simply not true, at least from a physiological standpoint. Although it's likely I'm misunderstanding you, a matter of terminology and semantics. You probably mean that we understand the world in color. (Although, where does that leave the variously colorblind, btw?) But it's interesting to note that, as far as how we see (as I understand it), the human eye indeed has both black and white receptors (rods) and color receptors (cones). Furthermore, not only do the rods greatly outnumber the cones, they dominate, or exclusively sense, our peripheral and low-light vision; the color receptors, on the other hand, are fewer, concentrated at the center of our vision and are far more dependent on illumination. One could argue that, in a sense (no pun intended), black and white dominates our visual experience, even though our perception of that experience is colored. As for the notion that color is obliged to be "realistic", that's a very slippery one. As I am sure you are well aware, our perception of color is very dependent on expectations, color interactions, and aesthetics, to name three random factors off the top of my head. Our brains constantly play fast and loose with the colors we see to make them "right". So "realistic" color is rather psychological and subjective, and our idea of it is easily fooled; I'd say it's even a bit of an oxymoron. It should be pretty obvious to anyone surveying digital cameras (or film) that different people have rather different ideas of what's "right" or "realistic" re color. Etc., etc.--I'm sure you can think of many more examples. And I don't think I buy that our expectation of "realistic" luminance, or tonal value is any less demanding (or any less subjective) than our expectations for colors. I have no doubt that it's more of a challenge to meet/fool those expectations through artifice where color is concerned, as opposed to mere tonality, but it does not follow that because there are technical inequities, our expectations are unequal. I don't think it's going too far to say that our expectations of color in photographs or artwork are no more exacting or rigid than are our expectations of tonal values in such situations. Having said all this, I have an inkling that we consider black and white more artistic and less representational (no argument there), not just because of novelty or abstraction, but also because it resonates with our peripheral, subliminal, and darker visual experience--the world seen by the rods--the mysterious world seen in the corner of your eye, in the shadows, in the darkness. By its nature, much good still photography intrigues us by, among other things, showing us a world we see but can't or won't notice or contemplate outside of temporal experience. I think black and white goes a bit further, by allowing our focused, conscious vision to see the world as it might be seen by our peripheral, unconscious, and more primal vision. Bob L P.S. A nice overview of the human eye and how it works: http://thalamus.wustl.edu/course/eyeret.html
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Re: Grayscale Vs Color (was PFP with UT7)
2006-12-03 by l33ry
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